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    • jgbJ Offline
      jgb
      last edited by

      Way back when I first started with SU I did a comparison of groups to components on SU speed, response and file size.

      Keep in mind, there is only ONE Susan component definition in SU, but the graphics processor (either hardware or software) is doing ALL the work here. The graphic engine calls up the components definition and reconstructs it for each instance it is displayed. Only a components definition pointer is retained for each instance in memory or file.

      So what you are really measuring is how good the graphics portion of your computer is, not so much the computational portion, or even memory.

      Now a group is fully defined in memory and file for EACH and EVERY instance in the model. Both the computation AND graphics engines are working here, more computational, less graphical.

      Try your million Susans again, but first explode Susan's comp and group her. I'll bet you won't get anywhere near as many, but the pan speed may actually improve a bit.


      jgb

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      • thomthomT Offline
        thomthom
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        @jgb said:

        Now a group is fully defined in memory and file for EACH and EVERY instance in the model. Both the computation AND graphics engines are working here, more computational, less graphical.

        Try your million Susans again, but first explode Susan's comp and group her. I'll bet you won't get anywhere near as many, but the pan speed may actually improve a bit.

        Not quite - groups acts as components internally. When you copy a group you are making a new instance of that same group definition. The only difference is that groups are automatically made unique once you modify them.

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        • jgbJ Offline
          jgb
          last edited by

          @thomthom said:

          Not quite - groups acts as components internally. When you copy a group you are making a new instance of that same group definition. The only difference is that groups are automatically made unique once you modify them.

          I stand corrected. However the correction still maintains my statement that groups are defined fully in every instance, unlike just once for a component.


          jgb

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          • thomthomT Offline
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            Only when it's made unique.
            When you copy a group, you have two instances that both points to the same definition. You see in Entity Into that it lists how many copy there are of a given group. When it says you have more than one it's the same thing as if you had a component.

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            • jgbJ Offline
              jgb
              last edited by

              @thomthom said:

              Only when it's made unique.
              When you copy a group, you have two instances that both points to the same definition. You see in Entity Into that it lists how many copy there are of a given group. When it says you have more than one it's the same thing as if you had a component.

              Sounds reasonable, but, please explain why when I did my test years ago, the file with the copies of a group was consistently bigger than the same file of the same number of the same entities but as a copied component. And it started panning faster. (Not a lot but noticeable)


              jgb

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              • thomthomT Offline
                thomthom
                last edited by

                Don't know - not sure how things are stored in the .skp format.

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                  d12dozr
                  last edited by

                  100,000 Susans...adding any more takes f-o-r-e-v-e-r

                  ASUS G73JW-XT1 Gaming Laptop
                  i7-740QM
                  NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460M
                  (I know this isn't as many as some of the others, but since I did the test, I figured it'd be a waste not to share the results)


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                  • tpstigersT Offline
                    tpstigers
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                    Wow. My computer had to go smoke a cigarette and take a nap after doing only one Susan.

                    “I have an existential map; it has 'you are here' written all over it”

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                    • GaieusG Offline
                      Gaieus
                      last edited by

                      Did you doSudan??? 😲

                      Gai...

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                      • M Offline
                        Motojoel_07
                        last edited by

                        @gaieus said:

                        Did you doSudan??? 😲

                        Bummer you beat me to that post, same thing i was thinking.

                        Anyway on my 600 aud budget computer. I got 350 000 of those pasted.

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