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    • bmikeB Offline
      bmike
      last edited by

      100,000
      pretty slow... to even snag a screen pic.
      dell m6400. not exactly a high horsepower machine.

      i did explode the original and made a new component with 'face camera' off. πŸ˜‰


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      • bmikeB Offline
        bmike
        last edited by

        orbited slowly @ 100,000.
        almost made a 100k selection.
        and then 'sketchup has stopped working'.

        !!

        no 200k for me.

        mike beganyi design + consulting llc

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        • thomthomT Offline
          thomthom
          last edited by

          @bmike said:

          i did explode the original and made a new component with 'face camera' off. πŸ˜‰

          No need to explode for that. You can change the component properties from the Component Browser.

          Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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          • bmikeB Offline
            bmike
            last edited by

            @thomthom said:

            @bmike said:

            i did explode the original and made a new component with 'face camera' off. πŸ˜‰

            No need to explode for that. You can change the component properties from the Component Browser.

            thanks... never use that feature (face camera).

            mike beganyi design + consulting llc

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            • jeff hammondJ Offline
              jeff hammond
              last edited by

              click pic for bigger

              i think it's just a matter of how long you're willing to wait.. going from 100,000 to 600,000 took around 40 minutes.

              dotdotdot

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              • KrisidiousK Offline
                Krisidious
                last edited by

                nice Jeff... how many did you select at the largest copy?

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                • jeff hammondJ Offline
                  jeff hammond
                  last edited by

                  @krisidious said:

                  nice Jeff... how many did you select at the largest copy?

                  100,000 was the most selected at once.

                  @tourniquetmaster said:

                  My result was 10,000 Susans (on a MacBook pro). Can you do better?

                  nah, you can do more than that.. those 600,000 susans are on a mbp also..

                  dotdotdot

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                  • B Offline
                    Builder Boy
                    last edited by

                    YES!!! ONE MILLION!

                    I cheated a little 😳 I used guide points instead of Susans. and I kinda grouped them together as well. 😳

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                    • A Offline
                      Aerilius
                      last edited by

                      @builder boy said:

                      😳

                      You can download a million here.

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                      • jgbJ Offline
                        jgb
                        last edited by

                        Way back when I first started with SU I did a comparison of groups to components on SU speed, response and file size.

                        Keep in mind, there is only ONE Susan component definition in SU, but the graphics processor (either hardware or software) is doing ALL the work here. The graphic engine calls up the components definition and reconstructs it for each instance it is displayed. Only a components definition pointer is retained for each instance in memory or file.

                        So what you are really measuring is how good the graphics portion of your computer is, not so much the computational portion, or even memory.

                        Now a group is fully defined in memory and file for EACH and EVERY instance in the model. Both the computation AND graphics engines are working here, more computational, less graphical.

                        Try your million Susans again, but first explode Susan's comp and group her. I'll bet you won't get anywhere near as many, but the pan speed may actually improve a bit.


                        jgb

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                        • thomthomT Offline
                          thomthom
                          last edited by

                          @jgb said:

                          Now a group is fully defined in memory and file for EACH and EVERY instance in the model. Both the computation AND graphics engines are working here, more computational, less graphical.

                          Try your million Susans again, but first explode Susan's comp and group her. I'll bet you won't get anywhere near as many, but the pan speed may actually improve a bit.

                          Not quite - groups acts as components internally. When you copy a group you are making a new instance of that same group definition. The only difference is that groups are automatically made unique once you modify them.

                          Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                          • jgbJ Offline
                            jgb
                            last edited by

                            @thomthom said:

                            Not quite - groups acts as components internally. When you copy a group you are making a new instance of that same group definition. The only difference is that groups are automatically made unique once you modify them.

                            I stand corrected. However the correction still maintains my statement that groups are defined fully in every instance, unlike just once for a component.


                            jgb

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                            • thomthomT Offline
                              thomthom
                              last edited by

                              Only when it's made unique.
                              When you copy a group, you have two instances that both points to the same definition. You see in Entity Into that it lists how many copy there are of a given group. When it says you have more than one it's the same thing as if you had a component.

                              Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                              List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                              • jgbJ Offline
                                jgb
                                last edited by

                                @thomthom said:

                                Only when it's made unique.
                                When you copy a group, you have two instances that both points to the same definition. You see in Entity Into that it lists how many copy there are of a given group. When it says you have more than one it's the same thing as if you had a component.

                                Sounds reasonable, but, please explain why when I did my test years ago, the file with the copies of a group was consistently bigger than the same file of the same number of the same entities but as a copied component. And it started panning faster. (Not a lot but noticeable)


                                jgb

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                                • thomthomT Offline
                                  thomthom
                                  last edited by

                                  Don't know - not sure how things are stored in the .skp format.

                                  Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                  • D Offline
                                    d12dozr
                                    last edited by

                                    100,000 Susans...adding any more takes f-o-r-e-v-e-r

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                                    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460M
                                    (I know this isn't as many as some of the others, but since I did the test, I figured it'd be a waste not to share the results)


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                                    • tpstigersT Offline
                                      tpstigers
                                      last edited by

                                      Wow. My computer had to go smoke a cigarette and take a nap after doing only one Susan.

                                      β€œI have an existential map; it has 'you are here' written all over it”

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                                      • GaieusG Offline
                                        Gaieus
                                        last edited by

                                        Did you doSudan??? 😲

                                        Gai...

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                                        • M Offline
                                          Motojoel_07
                                          last edited by

                                          @gaieus said:

                                          Did you doSudan??? 😲

                                          Bummer you beat me to that post, same thing i was thinking.

                                          Anyway on my 600 aud budget computer. I got 350 000 of those pasted.

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