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    • E Offline
      ericschimel
      last edited by

      I got to 100,000. While Sketchup still "works" I wouldn't say that its really "working"

      I can orbit, but there is about a second delay when I do.


      susans.png

      -Eric
      http://plugin.sketchthis.net
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      • thomthomT Offline
        thomthom
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        @honoluludesktop said:

        I guess girls have more curves, edges in this case:-)

        [attachment=1:3gt4u24j]<!-- ia1 -->Temp00.PNG<!-- ia1 -->[/attachment:3gt4u24j]
        [attachment=0:3gt4u24j]<!-- ia0 -->Temp01.png<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:3gt4u24j]

        A more detailed comparison - taking into account the amount of triangles in each model:

        Susan

        
        ========================================
                    Model Statistics            
        ----------------------------------------
                   Temp02b - Arch.skp           
        ========================================
        Edges                    463
        Faces                    22
        Triangles                629
        ========================================
        
        

        Sang

        
        ========================================
                    Model Statistics            
        ----------------------------------------
                   Temp02b - Arch.skp           
        ========================================
        Edges                    392
        Faces                    19
        Triangles                487
        ========================================
        
        

        Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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        • KrisidiousK Offline
          Krisidious
          last edited by

          200,000 Susans...

          200000 susans.jpg

          shoot for 1 million tomorrow.

          By: Kristoff Rand
          Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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          • thomthomT Offline
            thomthom
            last edited by

            @krisidious said:

            200,000 Susans...

            That would be:
            Edges: 92 600 000
            Faces: 38 000 00
            Triangles: 97 400 000

            @krisidious said:

            shoot for 1 million tomorrow.

            Edges: 463 000 000
            Faces: 22 000 000
            Triangles: 629 000 000

            Good luck with that!

            Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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            • bmikeB Offline
              bmike
              last edited by

              100,000
              pretty slow... to even snag a screen pic.
              dell m6400. not exactly a high horsepower machine.

              i did explode the original and made a new component with 'face camera' off. πŸ˜‰


              susan.png

              mike beganyi design + consulting llc

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              • bmikeB Offline
                bmike
                last edited by

                orbited slowly @ 100,000.
                almost made a 100k selection.
                and then 'sketchup has stopped working'.

                !!

                no 200k for me.

                mike beganyi design + consulting llc

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                • thomthomT Offline
                  thomthom
                  last edited by

                  @bmike said:

                  i did explode the original and made a new component with 'face camera' off. πŸ˜‰

                  No need to explode for that. You can change the component properties from the Component Browser.

                  Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                  • bmikeB Offline
                    bmike
                    last edited by

                    @thomthom said:

                    @bmike said:

                    i did explode the original and made a new component with 'face camera' off. πŸ˜‰

                    No need to explode for that. You can change the component properties from the Component Browser.

                    thanks... never use that feature (face camera).

                    mike beganyi design + consulting llc

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                    • jeff hammondJ Offline
                      jeff hammond
                      last edited by

                      click pic for bigger

                      i think it's just a matter of how long you're willing to wait.. going from 100,000 to 600,000 took around 40 minutes.

                      dotdotdot

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                      • KrisidiousK Offline
                        Krisidious
                        last edited by

                        nice Jeff... how many did you select at the largest copy?

                        By: Kristoff Rand
                        Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                        • jeff hammondJ Offline
                          jeff hammond
                          last edited by

                          @krisidious said:

                          nice Jeff... how many did you select at the largest copy?

                          100,000 was the most selected at once.

                          @tourniquetmaster said:

                          My result was 10,000 Susans (on a MacBook pro). Can you do better?

                          nah, you can do more than that.. those 600,000 susans are on a mbp also..

                          dotdotdot

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                          • B Offline
                            Builder Boy
                            last edited by

                            YES!!! ONE MILLION!

                            I cheated a little 😳 I used guide points instead of Susans. and I kinda grouped them together as well. 😳

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                              Aerilius
                              last edited by

                              @builder boy said:

                              😳

                              You can download a million here.

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                              • jgbJ Offline
                                jgb
                                last edited by

                                Way back when I first started with SU I did a comparison of groups to components on SU speed, response and file size.

                                Keep in mind, there is only ONE Susan component definition in SU, but the graphics processor (either hardware or software) is doing ALL the work here. The graphic engine calls up the components definition and reconstructs it for each instance it is displayed. Only a components definition pointer is retained for each instance in memory or file.

                                So what you are really measuring is how good the graphics portion of your computer is, not so much the computational portion, or even memory.

                                Now a group is fully defined in memory and file for EACH and EVERY instance in the model. Both the computation AND graphics engines are working here, more computational, less graphical.

                                Try your million Susans again, but first explode Susan's comp and group her. I'll bet you won't get anywhere near as many, but the pan speed may actually improve a bit.


                                jgb

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                                • thomthomT Offline
                                  thomthom
                                  last edited by

                                  @jgb said:

                                  Now a group is fully defined in memory and file for EACH and EVERY instance in the model. Both the computation AND graphics engines are working here, more computational, less graphical.

                                  Try your million Susans again, but first explode Susan's comp and group her. I'll bet you won't get anywhere near as many, but the pan speed may actually improve a bit.

                                  Not quite - groups acts as components internally. When you copy a group you are making a new instance of that same group definition. The only difference is that groups are automatically made unique once you modify them.

                                  Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                  • jgbJ Offline
                                    jgb
                                    last edited by

                                    @thomthom said:

                                    Not quite - groups acts as components internally. When you copy a group you are making a new instance of that same group definition. The only difference is that groups are automatically made unique once you modify them.

                                    I stand corrected. However the correction still maintains my statement that groups are defined fully in every instance, unlike just once for a component.


                                    jgb

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                                    • thomthomT Offline
                                      thomthom
                                      last edited by

                                      Only when it's made unique.
                                      When you copy a group, you have two instances that both points to the same definition. You see in Entity Into that it lists how many copy there are of a given group. When it says you have more than one it's the same thing as if you had a component.

                                      Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                      • jgbJ Offline
                                        jgb
                                        last edited by

                                        @thomthom said:

                                        Only when it's made unique.
                                        When you copy a group, you have two instances that both points to the same definition. You see in Entity Into that it lists how many copy there are of a given group. When it says you have more than one it's the same thing as if you had a component.

                                        Sounds reasonable, but, please explain why when I did my test years ago, the file with the copies of a group was consistently bigger than the same file of the same number of the same entities but as a copied component. And it started panning faster. (Not a lot but noticeable)


                                        jgb

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                                        • thomthomT Offline
                                          thomthom
                                          last edited by

                                          Don't know - not sure how things are stored in the .skp format.

                                          Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                          • D Offline
                                            d12dozr
                                            last edited by

                                            100,000 Susans...adding any more takes f-o-r-e-v-e-r

                                            ASUS G73JW-XT1 Gaming Laptop
                                            i7-740QM
                                            NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460M
                                            (I know this isn't as many as some of the others, but since I did the test, I figured it'd be a waste not to share the results)


                                            Capture2.PNG

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