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    • TIGT 離線
      TIG Moderator
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      It's not an issue with Solid Inspector or SketchUp seeing the group as a Solid ?
      BUT of course it could flag the 'hidden' parts if its export is critical...

      It only becomes an issue when exporting geometry that ignores Hidden entities, or those on OFF Layers, because then the exported object is no longer a Solid...

      So tools like the STL Exporter needs to 'include' any such 'hidden' geometry, if those are critical to the Solidity of the exported object......

      TIG

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      • thomthomT 離線
        thomthom
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        Yea, even SketchUp doesn't take into account hidden entities in the solid-test. I guess it's not that common to hide individual faces of a mesh.

        Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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        • K 離線
          kjhunter
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          Doesn't work. Additionally, documentation is anything but easy step-by-step. Anyway, I got to the point where Extension Warehouse worked. Installed Solid Inspector ok, but nothing showed up in tools. Figured I needed to install the TT_Lib which was also required. I went to do that, and the following came up:

          The requested page "/en/content/tt_lib%25C2%25B2" could not be found.

          System:
          OSX 10.9.2

          Again, the documentation of this "Solid Inspector" is REALLY unclear! 👎

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          • Dave RD 離線
            Dave R
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            It does indeed work fine when installed correctly along with TT_Lib2 as described in the first post of this thread.

            What do you mean by "Anyway, I got to the point where Extension Warehouse worked"?

            It sounds as if at least you didn't install TT_Lib2 correctly. How did you go about installing it?

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            • thomthomT 離線
              thomthom
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              @kjhunter said:

              The requested page "/en/content/tt_lib%25C2%25B2" could not be found.

              From which link? From within EW? From TT_Lib2's description?

              Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
              List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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              • thomthomT 離線
                thomthom
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                @kjhunter said:

                Again, the documentation of this "Solid Inspector" is REALLY unclear! 👎

                The description at EW?
                What did you find unclear?

                Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                • J 離線
                  jimbpoe
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                  Does this plugin work with the free version of Sketchup 2014?
                  Thanks

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                  • Dave RD 離線
                    Dave R
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                    @jimbpoe said:

                    Does this plugin work with the free version of Sketchup 2014?
                    Thanks

                    Yes. What makes you think it wouldn't?

                    Are you using SketchUp 2014? Your profile indicates SketchUp 8. (It works in both anyway.)

                    Etaoin Shrdlu

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                    • J 離線
                      jimbpoe
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                      Thanks for the quick reply.

                      I thought there was a leak in one of my components because the Cutlist plugin would not print it and because it had no volume. I tried installing Solid Inspector but it did not find any leaks. Once I invoked Solid Inspector, I could not do anything in Sketchup and had to exit the Sketchup application.

                      Eventually I figured out that my component did not display a volume value because I had used a subcomponent within the component. I removed the subcomponent and Cutlist was able to recognize my component.

                      I'm still wondering how you exit Solid Inspector.

                      Thanks,
                      Jim

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                      • Dave RD 離線
                        Dave R
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                        First, the CutList plugin doesn't require components to be solid. But, as you found, the parts you want showing in your cut list must be at the lowest level. Adding some other subcomponent will make the part not be the lowest level and thus not show.

                        As for exiting out of Sold Inspector, select another tool. I usually get the Select tool (hit the Spacebar) since I'll probably want to select something anyway.

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                        • K 離線
                          Kyudos
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                          Could someone please help a newbie out? Solid Inspector tells me something is wrong with the edges of the 'shelf' in this model, but I don't understand what it could be. It all looks 'ok...?


                          What is wrong?

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                          • K 離線
                            Kyudos
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                            Its OK - thanks for looking - but I figured it out! Internal faces! Could SI highlight the face rather than the edge? - that would've given me more of a clue...

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                            • cottyC 離線
                              cotty
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                              The edge has more than 2 faces, so the highlight is right...

                              my SketchUp gallery

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                              • jgbJ 離線
                                jgb
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                                Deleting an edge of a face deletes the face. Highlighting the face would be redundant.


                                jgb

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                                • TIGT 離線
                                  TIG Moderator
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                                  You can delete an edge which then in turn deletes its associated face...
                                  Any 'coplanar' faces using it will survive that edge's deletion, and simply merge together into one bigger face.
                                  BUT if those faces you want to keep are not 'coplanar', then they too will disappear with the edge !

                                  This example shows how an inner face makes a group into a non-solid.
                                  Deleting just the face makes it solid - BUT in this case deleting any of the edges used by that unwanted face would not give the desired result, because other faces we want to retain rely on those edges - the faces are not 'coplanar'.


                                  Capture.PNG

                                  TIG

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                                  • K 離線
                                    Kyudos
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                                    TIG describes my issue exactly. The first thing I tried was deleting the 'edge', but was frustrated to find that didn't help. I'm not saying that highlighting the edge is wrong - but highlighting the problem face would have been more helpful to a know-nothing-noob like me 😄

                                    (I actually had to install the Manifold extension and run that for it to tell me what the problem was).

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                                    • TIGT 離線
                                      TIG Moderator
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                                      Once you know it's an internal partition face [via Solid-Inspector]... then you can use a section-plane to cut into the form and let you see inside i [Xray-mode lets you see it, but not select it].

                                      In that way you can easily select just that face problem and press <delete> to remove it.

                                      The form should then be reported as a 'solid'...

                                      If by 'Manifold' you mean my old plugin, then I suggest that my SolidSolver [or several newer tools] might be more appropriate to try to auto-fix these kind of issues... BUT understanding what the problem is and then manually fixing it is often more effective...

                                      TIG

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                                      • M 離線
                                        magazines
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                                        Does anyone else not see Solid Inspector listed after installing SU15? I can't seem to find it at all in the pull-down menus anymore. Did it move? I looked for it in SU14 and SU15 and reinstalled from both Sketchucation manager and the extension warehouse along with new library file. I've used it for years and found it near the bottom of the tools pull down menu. Working on Mac with Yosemite.

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                                        • Dave RD 離線
                                          Dave R
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                                          It works just fine for me in the Tools menu on both PC and Mac with SU2015.

                                          Did you install the current version of TT_lib2?

                                          Screenshot - 11_23_2014 , 8_50_00 AM.png

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                                          • TIGT 離線
                                            TIG Moderator
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                                            Is its Extension activated ?

                                            TIG

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