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    • W Offline
      watkins
      last edited by

      Dear Edson,

      A quick model using screw1_5.rb

      Regards,
      Bob


      Quick model.skp

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      • EdsonE Offline
        Edson
        last edited by

        one problem i am facing right now is how to draw a helix that will fit precisely the stair i am building. i have tried helix, drawhelix and curvemaker but they all seem not to make things easier for one.

        helix asks you to select a face. it does not seem to accept integers like 1.5.
        Screen shot 2010-04-04 at 12.12.46.png
        in drawhelix, what is pitch and sections per?
        Screen shot 2010-04-04 at 12.13.15.png
        the parameters in curvemaker are obscure: what are from turns, to turns, sides/turn?
        Screen shot 2010-04-04 at 12.13.54.png

        edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
        http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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        • GaieusG Offline
          Gaieus
          last edited by

          In Drawhelix, "Pitch" is the total height of the helix while "Sections per" will refer to the segment count it will use per turn (in that screenshot 5 turns).

          So say if you want to combine it with a "regular" circle base, which has 24 segments all around, leave it at 24 in the plugin, too.

          Gai...

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          • simon le bonS Offline
            simon le bon
            last edited by

            Hi Edson, Hi everybody,

            And why not use COMPONENT STRINGER ?

            It is very powerful and flexible. >> Once the component is distributed along the path, you can open it and work on it in order to change the all stair in one pass: for example build and join the ribbons to make a complete one 😉 (I understand myself 😆 )


            http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/KerkyThea/Wire020_th.jpg

            😛 simon

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            • charly2008C Offline
              charly2008
              last edited by

              Hi,

              maybe a simple method with draw helixand follow me and keep. However, I do not know yet how to make the transition to the next floor!


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              He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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              • jeff hammondJ Offline
                jeff hammond
                last edited by

                @edson said:

                the parameters in curvemaker are obscure: what are from turns, to turns, sides/turn?

                from turns to turns has to do with the origin parameter.. if you have the origin set at 0,0,0 then set from turn at 2 and to turn at 3.. the helix will end up being one full revolution starting above the actual origin (ie, it will be as if two revolutions were made but only the top revolution will be drawn)

                for simplicity sake (or the way i use it).. if you want one rotation, set it from turn 0 to turn 1.. if you want 1 1/2 turns then go from 0 to 1.5.. 3 revolutions = from 0 to 3 etc... then move the helix into the location you want..

                sides/turn simply means how many line segments you want the helix to be drawn with per 1 revolution.. same thing as drawing a circle in SU - default is 24 sides/turn but you can change it to whatever you like.

                dotdotdot

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                • jeff hammondJ Offline
                  jeff hammond
                  last edited by

                  @d12dozr said:

                  Jeff's method is great, and could save a step and some cleanup by using TIG's EE by Vector to pull the helix up vertically. So you would:
                  -Draw helix with Curve Maker
                  -Extrude helix vertically with EE by Vector
                  -use JPP to give it thickness

                  oh yeah, that's way better..

                  screen-1.jpg

                  dotdotdot

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                  • D Offline
                    dtrarch
                    last edited by

                    Hi Edson

                    Easy to build a circular stair using 2 Olde scripts.
                    draw helix and spiral stair.
                    Both available on Didier's site.
                    (seems to be off line now)
                    Just to make sure here is the all script zip file and quick tut on how to build.
                    Use the handrail path (followMe and Keep) to extrude handrail shape or to create walls along the stair.
                    For floor to floor just copy and move up/down as needed.

                    Thanks for jogging my memory on this too.

                    dtrSU SPIRAL STAIR TUTORIAL.png


                    us_all_scripts.zip


                    SPIRAL STAIR TUTORIAL.skp

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                    • charly2008C Offline
                      charly2008
                      last edited by

                      At the end it should look like that. Still without stairs. Any Idea how to complete it with steps?


                      Spiral stair1.jpg


                      Spiral stair2.jpg


                      Spiral stair3.jpg


                      Spiral stair.skp

                      He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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                      • EdsonE Offline
                        Edson
                        last edited by

                        thanks to all of you for your contributions. there is now more than one method to solve this problem.

                        before checking here i found another way of doing it precisely with the stair tool of 1001bit tools (excellent set of plugins, by the way). i attached a tutorial explaining how i did it.
                        red_heli_stair.png


                        Spiral_Ribbon_Stairs_Tut.skp

                        edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                        http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                        • TIGT Offline
                          TIG Moderator
                          last edited by

                          Here's another way - entirely by hand - without Plugins [from a Plugin-fiend] 😉Capture.PNGHelicalStairWithoutPlugins.skp

                          TIG

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                          • EdsonE Offline
                            Edson
                            last edited by

                            beautiful, TIG. it shows once more the power of sketchup. but nonetheless i will tell as a friend: plugins can make your life much easier! there are some people in this forum who make wonderful plugins... 😉

                            edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                            http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                            • TIGT Offline
                              TIG Moderator
                              last edited by

                              @edson said:

                              beautiful, TIG. it shows once more the power of sketchup. but nonetheless i will tell as a friend: plugins can make your life much easier! there are some people in this forum who make wonderful plugins... 😉

                              Maybe I should try some .... 🤣

                              TIG

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                              • charly2008C Offline
                                charly2008
                                last edited by

                                FollowMeand keep with Grow could be the ideal solution.


                                Spiral stair.jpg

                                He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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                                • TIGT Offline
                                  TIG Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  I deliberately avoided mentioning my Grow tool as I was trying to show it all 'long-hand'... 😒

                                  TIG

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                                  • charly2008C Offline
                                    charly2008
                                    last edited by

                                    Hi TIG,

                                    shure you can help me to solve a small problem with Grow. How can i manage that the Center of the Grow object meets a individual axe.

                                    Thanks in advance

                                    Karlheinz


                                    Spiral stair.jpg


                                    Spiral stair1.jpg

                                    He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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                                    • TIGT Offline
                                      TIG Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      Manipulate the component's axis and its location relative to the 'growth' point....

                                      TIG

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                                      • charly2008C Offline
                                        charly2008
                                        last edited by

                                        The final result with FollowMeandKeep and Grow.


                                        Spiral stair.jpg


                                        Spiral stair1.jpg

                                        He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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                                        • honoluludesktopH Offline
                                          honoluludesktop
                                          last edited by

                                          You guys are great, hope I can find this post if I ever do a spiral stairs in SU.

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                                          • P Offline
                                            pmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            No offense to all you spiral stair makers but the wide stairs that you show with winders coming to a narrow point would be very dangerous (especially in descent). I would suggest a bigger inside hole or solid radius to assure a minimum tread depth. That's why typical library or residential stairs are quite narrow in width so as to keep a person in the middle of the tread with proper depth for the foot. Such wide stairs with point winders would be prohibited by code in the US, even for non-egress stairs in commercial stuctures.

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