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      xrok1
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      @unknownuser said:

      @xrok1 said:

      sorry, this is the age old question. i'm afaid you, and everyone else is SOL when it comes to this issue! πŸ‘Ώ

      not quite everyone ο£Ώ
      πŸ˜„

      ??????????
      do tell!

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        jeff hammond
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        @bonzai3d support said:

        Jeff,

        We have found that as you get close to the limits of what fillets can be generated, bonzai3d may not allow them to occur when you are doing these as 2d fillets. If you extrude the shape after it has been joined, you should then be able to apply a 2d Round to the desired segment, and derive the bottom edge to get what you want.

        Thanks for bringing this to our attention, we will get this corrected so that you can apply the same fillets in 2d as you can with rounding in 3d.

        i'm a dunce 😞
        i cannot figure this out...

        are you saying to first extrude like this:
        screen 2.jpg

        or like this?
        screen 3.jpg

        if it's either of those two, it's not working for me..

        dotdotdot

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          xrok1
          last edited by

          @bonzai3d support said:

          Rocky,

          Your second example (extruding horizontally) is the right way -- and you should then use the Round tool on (only) the horizontal segment that is visually close to the (green) Y axis.

          If you are having any further trouble with this, please email your BNZ file to support@bonzai3d.com so we can get you a more specific answer.

          πŸ˜† that was jeff.

          β€œThere are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

          http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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            thomthom
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            @xrok1 said:

            HEY! dwg worked! it created a new scene tab that seems to match except that B3D and SU seem to not agree where the origin is. try it out!

            For the origin, make sure you set the options to preserve the drawing origin.

            I tried to export. I do get a new scene. But the view don't match.
            b3d.png

            su.png

            xrok1: That thing you thought was related the the camera, when you select it, the Entity Info window says direct. Think it refers to a lightsource.

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              thomthom
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              Regarding the matching views: my bad! I had saved the view before changing it for export.

              su2.png

              This looks promising.

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                bonzai3d support
                last edited by

                Rocky,

                Yes, that is a graphic representation of the light source, and may be deleted if you don't want it. (It imports as an actual light source to programs that support it.)

                Jeff,

                Your second example (extruding horizontally) is the right way -- and you should then use the Round tool on (only) the horizontal segment that is visually close to the (green) Y axis.

                If you are having any further trouble with this, please email your BNZ file to support@bonzai3d.com so we can get you a more specific answer.

                Explore * Design * Deliver
                http://www.bonzai3d.com
                Version 2.5 Now Available!

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                  thomthom
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                  Onto another topic: can you have Hidden lines ontop of a background image? would be useful for photomatching.

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                    xrok1
                    last edited by

                    mine seem to match?? maybe you could give me your file?


                    Capture1.JPG


                    Capture2.JPG

                    β€œThere are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

                    http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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                      thomthom
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                      @xrok1 said:

                      mine seem to match?? maybe you could give me your file?

                      See the follow up post. I forgot to save the view in B3D after updating it. 😳

                      Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                        bonzai3d support
                        last edited by

                        @xrok1 said:

                        πŸ˜† that was jeff.

                        Oops! Sorry.

                        Thomas,

                        There is not a background option for the hidden Line view, but perhaps you can get what you want in Shaded Work by setting the objects to Render as Wireframe and NOT Render as Shaded Surface?

                        You could do this on an object basis if you want, but it would be easiest to change this back and forth, perhaps, if you used the Layer (or Layer Group) overrides:

                        Picture 1.jpg

                        Explore * Design * Deliver
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                        Version 2.5 Now Available!

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                          xrok1
                          last edited by

                          @thomthom said:

                          Onto another topic: can you have Hidden lines ontop of a background image? would be useful for photomatching.

                          ?? what do you mean by hidden lines?

                          EDIT ok, you mean wireframe. rightclick any object and click attributes, then clear the check box for render as a shaded surface

                          BTW, support the background images seam to load upside down??


                          Capture1.JPG

                          β€œThere are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

                          http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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                            xrok1
                            last edited by

                            @thomthom said:

                            @xrok1 said:

                            mine seem to match?? maybe you could give me your file?

                            See the follow up post. I forgot to save the view in B3D after updating it. 😳

                            awsome let us know how it turns out. πŸ˜„

                            β€œThere are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

                            http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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                              thomthom
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                              @bonzai3d support said:

                              There is not a background option for the hidden Line view, but perhaps you can get what you want in Shaded Work by setting the objects to Render as Wireframe and NOT Render as Shaded Surface?

                              Problem then is that I get all lines, and it's hard to tell them apart for a model where lots of stuff is going on.
                              Hidden Lines with background would be great for photomatching as you'd only see the contour edges and you can then ensure they line up with your background image.
                              Feature request?

                              @bonzai3d support said:

                              You could do this on an object basis if you want, but it would be easiest to change this back and forth, perhaps, if you used the Layer (or Layer Group) overrides:

                              Layer Groups! πŸ˜„ This I like. πŸ‘

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                                thomthom
                                last edited by

                                @xrok1 said:

                                BTW, support the background images seam to load upside down??

                                http://www.formz.com/forum/discus41/messages/35952/41031.html?1266419040 πŸ˜‰

                                Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                  xrok1
                                  last edited by

                                  @thomthom said:

                                  @xrok1 said:

                                  BTW, support the background images seam to load upside down??

                                  http://www.formz.com/forum/discus41/messages/35952/41031.html?1266419040 πŸ˜‰

                                  i guess i'll have to join their forum. the thing is i have an nvidia 8600 though, very common card/drivers, shouldn't be problematic.

                                  β€œThere are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

                                  http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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                                    bonzai3d support
                                    last edited by

                                    Thomas,

                                    It shouldn't be too hard to add a background image to the Hidden Line display, but the Hidden Line display mode is a "static" renderer -- and you can't work in that mode (because what is hidden needs to be recalculated as the view changes -- and often these calculations are not immediate).

                                    Perhaps you could put your "important objects" on one layer, and turn the others off to make the view easier to match?

                                    Layer Groups -- yes, these are very powerful and handy, especially in conjunction with the overrides. πŸ˜„

                                    Rocky,

                                    As Thomas notes, this is an issue that can occur with certain graphics cards, and we are working on correcting this. If you happen to be one of the few with the "unlucky upside down cards" you can work around this by rotating the image in your editing program. (We should have this fixed in the near future.)

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                                    Version 2.5 Now Available!

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                                      thomthom
                                      last edited by

                                      @bonzai3d support said:

                                      [...] you can work around this by rotating the image in your editing program. (We should have this fixed in the near future.)

                                      Actually, rotating won't work. It must be mirrored.

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                                      • thomthomT Offline
                                        thomthom
                                        last edited by

                                        How can you update an existing view?

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                                          thomthom
                                          last edited by

                                          And: can one make the background image fit in the viewport but keeping it's proportions?

                                          Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                                            bonzai3d support
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                                            Thomas (& Rocky),

                                            Yes, sorry, we meant Mirror (not Rotate).

                                            You can set the resolution of your project window via the Display Menu: Image Options. Just set the pixels, or the proportions to be the same as your image, and it will not be distorted.

                                            There probably should be a "more automatic" way to do this, so we will see if this can be added. πŸ˜„

                                            Explore * Design * Deliver
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