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    • R Offline
      roadie3rd
      last edited by

      Thanks TIG

      I'm really sorry to be a pain again
      This is my first attempt at an 'organic' shape and im finding it quite tricky

      how would I give the hull a thickness of say 60mm to the outside edges is this possible?
      If so how

      Cheers Mark

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        numbthumb
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        Take a look at this and see if it helps http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=323&t=6708&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=joint+push+pull

        Comfortably numb...

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          roadie3rd
          last edited by

          Why did i agree to do this for my father inlaw 😲 😕
          thought id get some brownie points stacked up for future use but obviously its proving harder than expected

          Just so people know this is what im trying to create in sketchup

          http://www.mcs-justright.org.uk/Libraries/Hotpics/The_Boat.sflb.ashx

          http://www.mcs-justright.org.uk/Libraries/Building_the_boat_over_the_years/Summer_09_New_hatch_in_place.sflb.ashx

          http://www.mcs-justright.org.uk/Libraries/Building_the_boat_over_the_years/06_New_look_coachroof.sflb.ashx

          Im finding it quite hard to get the hull started. Tigs help is great many thanks and has got me started a bit but im still finding it hard to get my head round

          Thanks for all the help anymore would be greatfully accepted

          Cheers Mark 👍

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            roadie3rd
            last edited by

            @unknownuser said:

            numbthumb wrote:
            Take a look at this and see if it helps viewtopic.php?f=323&t=6708&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=joint+push+pull

            Ive tried this and it keeps crashing the model and shutting sketchup
            i think the model is too complex and has a spas attack and closes it.
            Cheers anyway is a useful plugin
            Mark 👍

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              pilou
              last edited by

              What the name of the boat model?

              Frenchy Pilou
              Is beautiful that please without concept!
              My Little site :)

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              • ely862meE Offline
                ely862me
                last edited by

                Roadie,first of all u should be sure to find and download some blueprints(without them is very hard),then search for lot of reference images,then(but not last) u should have some average skills in sketchup..and only after these steps start building it. imho

                All the best!

                Elisei

                Elisei (sketchupper)


                Before no life was done on Earth it was THE LIFE ITSELF...GOD
                Come and See EliseiDesign

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                  numbthumb
                  last edited by

                  Or maybe you can give this a try http://www.delftship.net/delftship/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=31:delftship-free&catid=13:products&Itemid=4
                  It exports .DXF, and .OBJ AFAIK, so you can load these in SU.

                  Comfortably numb...

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                    roadie3rd
                    last edited by

                    @ely862me said:

                    Roadie,first of all u should be sure to find and download some blueprints(without them is very hard),then search for lot of reference images,then(but not last) u should have some average skills in sketchup..and only after these steps start building it.

                    Ive got the plans he built the boat to which are printouts which ive caded up the drawings in autocad. The guy who designed the boat drew it all by hand old school style and doesnt have downloadable plans. Plus you have to pay for the plans which is about £500

                    I have loads of images ive taken of the boat and have been given by my father inlaw

                    I have average skills in solidworks as i use it at work for architecture concepts but its mostly straight lines and curves not organic shapes. Ive used sketchup lots but cant get my head around the the hull shape and making it work. Ive drawn the majority of the other bits to attach to the hull but the hull is the most important bit.

                    Mark

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                      roadie3rd
                      last edited by

                      @unknownuser said:

                      What the name of the boat model?

                      Its a Golant Gaffer

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                        roadie3rd
                        last edited by

                        @numbthumb said:

                        Or maybe you can give this a try http://www.delftship.net/delftship/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=31:delftship-free&catid=13:products&Itemid=4
                        It exports .DXF, and .OBJ AFAIK, so you can load these in SU.

                        cheers for this ill give it a go on the weekend

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                          roadie3rd
                          last edited by

                          ive found these pics if people want them


                          full side


                          top/side

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                            Jim
                            last edited by

                            Give the guy a break - he doesn't know where to start. Posting a model of a completed hull (even if it lacks accuracy) doesn't help much because it doesn't show how to set it up.

                            Hi

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                            • ely862meE Offline
                              ely862me
                              last edited by

                              I don t see u struggling too much making it..

                              Here is the hull,if i don t see you finishing it ,means u don t wanna make it..

                              Happy sketching!

                              Elisei
                              Golant Gaffer hull by EliseiDesign.jpg
                              Golant Gaffer hull by EliseiDesign a.jpg
                              Golant Gaffer hull by EliseiDesign b.jpg
                              Golant Gaffer hull by EliseiDesign.skp
                              BTW The halves are components,u can just work at one of them and the other will update by itself.

                              EDITED: A small mistake i made without my will, model uploaded again .

                              Elisei (sketchupper)


                              Before no life was done on Earth it was THE LIFE ITSELF...GOD
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                                ely862me
                                last edited by

                                Jim,in this case...should i remove the files?
                                Roadie,sorry if i m(was) a bit harsh to you!

                                All the best!

                                Elisei

                                Elisei (sketchupper)


                                Before no life was done on Earth it was THE LIFE ITSELF...GOD
                                Come and See EliseiDesign

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                                  mac1
                                  last edited by

                                  @roadie3rd said:

                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  What the name of the boat model?

                                  Its a Golant Gaffer

                                  roadie3rd
                                  Additi0nal info for you ref problen areas:http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=1f56117edc6c5690ab9c83967811b1f7 It looks to me like a problem with the rail profiles 3 to 4 down. I used the shown cutting plane to get intersection points with the rails . You should then be able to create good bulk head profiles for TIG's suggestion pending issue with the rails

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                                    Jim
                                    last edited by

                                    @ely862me said:

                                    Jim,in this case...should i remove the files?
                                    Roadie,sorry if i m(was) a bit harsh to you!

                                    All the best!

                                    Elisei

                                    No no, you were not harsh. I think this is a tough model to start with.

                                    Hi

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                                      chrisjk
                                      last edited by

                                      Elisei,

                                      I'd be interested to learn how you did the modelling of the surface. I can't get it that smooth. I used TIG's EEBR and as can be seen, I get "pleats" at the front.

                                      http://woodgen.smugmug.com/Other/MIsc-Forum-posts-1/Screen-shot-2010-01-29-at/776096510_ySzMU-L.png

                                      Chris

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                                        TIG Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        Make several equally segmented 'bulkheads' and so it in pieces...
                                        Profile 2 for one becomes profile 1 for the next - split the rails a long the 'keel' and 'side' ❓

                                        TIG

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                                          chrisjk
                                          last edited by

                                          Thanks TIG.

                                          Chris

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                                            Jim
                                            last edited by

                                            The mesh in the first post isn't very clean - there are many edges that are not connected to anything, and many that do not actually intersect. You really need to get in close to find them, but they are there. It might explain some of the results of using some of the plug-ins.

                                            Is this sort of thing a use for TIG's manifold plug-in?

                                            Hi

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