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      driven
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      TIG....do you sleep???

      learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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        otb designworks
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        any chance this can be adjusted to not triangulate all faces? It is very useful for me to be able to clean up a model that I have carefully constructed so that I have consistent quads everywhere, which is what I need for sending into ZBrush for further detail modeling.

        I know that Cheetah, too, triangulates everything when performing boolean functions, which I also find annoying. It is this, more than anything, that keeps me away from automated solutions for ensuring manifold meshes.

        Cheers, Chuck

        Cheers, Chuck

        OTB Designworks is on Youtube

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          TIG Moderator
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          @unknownuser said:

          any chance this can be adjusted to not triangulate all faces? It is very useful for me to be able to clean up a model that I have carefully constructed so that I have consistent quads everywhere, which is what I need for sending into ZBrush for further detail modeling.

          I know that Cheetah, too, triangulates everything when performing boolean functions, which I also find annoying. It is this, more than anything, that keeps me away from automated solutions for ensuring manifold meshes.

          Cheers, Chuck

          I'll add triangulation as a closing option ? πŸ€“

          TIG

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            otb designworks
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            That would be quite useful, for me.

            Now, how about a plug-in that cuts a model up into beautifully perfect quads? I'd pay cold hard cash for that one, too.

            Thanks TIG!

            Cheers, Chuck

            OTB Designworks is on Youtube

            6 core nMP, 32 gig RAM, (2) D700 GPU's, dual monitors

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              TIG Moderator
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              Here's v1.8 http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=218691#p218691

              Triangulation is now an option near the end - Answer Yes to do it... πŸ€“

              TIG

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                driven
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                TIG,
                slight problem, when choosing Yes to continue after an 'initial health check' pass, it zapps everything even unselected groups.... both on badly grouped and clean booled groups, I'll do some more and send pics.

                I'll see if it still happening in 1.8

                learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                  TIG Moderator
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                  @driven said:

                  TIG,
                  slight problem, when choosing Yes to continue after an 'initial health check' pass, it zapps everything even unselected groups.... both on badly grouped and clean booled groups, I'll do some more and send pics.
                  I'll see if it still happening in 1.8

                  Odd - I can't get it to error at all... πŸ˜• Please 'feedback'.............

                  TIG

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                    driven
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                    @tig said:

                    Odd - I can't get it to error at all... :? Please 'feedback'.............

                    been trying to up load pics, site is slow, pics to follow

                    it's on both machines, 1.7 and 1.8

                    3 groups from Draw Shapes Menu, grouped, manifold_1.7and8, both give a pass
                    [attachment=0:19dcyp32]<!-- ia0 -->3 groups inside group_1.jpg<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:19dcyp32]
                    Yes to continue....zapppp

                    Same 3 groups, exploded then regrouped is running as predicted on other mac at the moment, this site is slow from this machine....

                    learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                      driven
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                      the first and last zap the drawing clean, i.e. everything goes

                      learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                        driven
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                        this should upload.jpg
                        something screwy going on with uploads, sorry it makes thing disjointed

                        learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                          TIG Moderator
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                          I get no problems... but can you PM me that model asap, so that I have exactly the same starting point... πŸ˜•

                          The 'no problems found' report is on any geometry that hasn't already be relegated to 'red'... looks like everything is removed BEFORE we do the health check - it's not a group inside a group is it ?

                          TIG

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                            driven
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                            TIG,

                            they were groups inside a group, and got a pass, (they are all manifold) it only zaps them if you say YES,
                            the same thing happened after I BoolTool'd all 3 groups into 1 group, initial pass (as it should), but zapped if you choose YES, I only got the RED on that one drawing, I'll re run the first set-up and post the if no red is shown again.

                            I have just set a Bool'd group run that Passed initial and didn't blitz the drawing when I hit YES

                            It's on a pair of torus + geodasic sphere bool group, and it is running.

                            original set ungrouped, but not booled

                            and others work so smoothly

                            learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                              TIG Moderator
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                              Here's v1.9 http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=218691#p218691

                              It now traps for 'No Geometry' inside the Group... πŸ€“

                              TIG

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                                driven
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                                NO Zapping with 1.9... is it possible for the health check to report 'NO geometry to Check because the selection contains sub-groups'?

                                I'll try some other breakers I've been working on...

                                cheers john

                                learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                                  driven
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                                  TIG,
                                  I've got a couple of test on the go, I'll report on them when they're cooked.

                                  some additional ?'s

                                  which should be faster for manifold, simply continuing after fail or a manual repair than re-test continue

                                  would it be possible to choose bothquad's and tri's as two separate groups, if you have two different post destinations for the object?

                                  or would EraseCoplanar on a copy of a Tri'd group give identical mesh results?

                                  learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                                    driven
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                                    TIG- found the problem with the Bool'd groups -BT can create a group inside a group when bool-ing more than two groups, which I should have spotted in Outliner.

                                    When manifold highlighted RED and said 'NO' I simply exploded the extra group and answered my earlier ?, it was much faster on the bool'd group and I assume would be the similar on a manually repaired group.

                                    Note for users: The manual option also gives more control over the mesh shape at the torus/box intersection.

                                    Basically TIG you've done a fantastic job on this, thank you

                                    I'm convinced you, Chuck, and I won't be the only end-user's for this, it has soo many uses.

                                    for now I'll keep putting up images that help or hinder, and get back to some bent text testing....

                                    do you think it's ready for a wider audience yet, I'm planing on trying to do a tutorial when your happy?
                                    un-intersected single groupinitial test picked up the buried group and then 'presto'

                                    ADD: it's what I thought re: tri/quads, just thought I'd ask

                                    learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                                      TIG Moderator
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                                      @driven said:

                                      TIG,
                                      I've got a couple of test on the go, I'll report on them when they're cooked.
                                      some additional ?'s
                                      which should be faster for manifold, simply continuing after fail or a manual repair than re-test continue
                                      would it be possible to choose bothquad's and tri's as two separate groups, if you have two different post destinations for the object?
                                      or would EraseCoplanar on a copy of a Tri'd group give identical mesh results?

                                      Manual fix versus Auto-fix depends on what needs fixing - making it right in the first place is the best bet πŸ˜‰
                                      If you choose NOT to triangulate but then want a triangulated version then copy it and simply select all faces and run my [+tt's] tool triangulate_faces and you'll have the same result - uses the same code... πŸ€“

                                      TIG

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                                        driven
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                                        Even Likes Curves, but they will slow it down.

                                        seems a lot quicker than before on this sort of thing

                                        learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                                        • TIGT Offline
                                          TIG Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          Here's v2.0 http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=218691#p218691

                                          Glitch in health-check if very small edges in faces fixed...

                                          TIG

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                                            thomthom
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                                            v2 ? is this a major or minor update?

                                            Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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