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    • thomthomT Offline
      thomthom
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      If you do rework the material editor. Please, please, please make it stop opening up every time I activate the paintbucket. At least an option to do so. Even if it's a registry setting or other hidden tweak. Just let me not have to see that window pop up everytime.

      ...guess it's Material-editor rant time...

      Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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      • F Offline
        frv
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        Mark me down as well, for as many users as you can. I am sure most users have grown used to the clumsyness of the panel but for those who use SU daily for their work this one would be a major update, I would even call it SU 8. Thats how important it is for those who render. And there are a lot of users now who do...

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        • thomthomT Offline
          thomthom
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          while we're on the topic of the material editor.

          another issue I have is if I make some changes to a material and then undo - the focus shifts to the material editor.
          This leads to two scenarios:

          1. If you want to keep on undoing I have to click on the SU window again to give it focus before continuing with the next undo command. If I have done multiple changes I want to undo I have to repeat this each time.

          2. After I undo a material change, and then hit a keyboard key to activate a new tool - I often don't notice the material window got the focus. So instead of activating the tool, I just typed something into one of the fields in the editor. This either causes me to add random characters to the material name, letters into the width, height field - which will throw an error - or sometimes affect the colour of the material itself.

          Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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          • jeff hammondJ Offline
            jeff hammond
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            @frv said:

            Thats how important it is for those who render. And there are a lot of users now who do...

            that's the thing.. i've been using sketchup since v4 in my professional work but i didn't start seriously making rendered views until this year.. i never had a problem with the colorpicker before because if i wanted something black, i'd choose black.. easy.

            but now, i might have a black diffuse material and a black phong which look identical in the color picker so i'm stuck with the hover and wait as well as the odd fashion to put names on the different colors/materials.. it's still workable but it's a bit of a headache.

            if i'm being honest, i'd guess a very small percentage of total SU users see the current material browser as a problem so it's going to be hard to get a lot of steam behind the movement.. we can hope though.

            dotdotdot

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            • thomthomT Offline
              thomthom
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              Maybe we're enough?

              There seem to be quite a number of people posting in the gallery section that renders. What if you did a little survey? amongst users here and at forums for some of the render engines. ASGVis's forum for instance?

              Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
              List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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              • B Offline
                bjanzen
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                Sigh....

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                • F Offline
                  frv
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                  Maybe you could explain what a feature request really means ? Is it realistic to expect an improved material panel in the next 6 months for us pro-OSX users ?

                  Francois

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                  • F Offline
                    frv
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                    http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=23534&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=15

                    I think there are enough SU-OSX render-users who wish for a more "pro" material panel.

                    Francois

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                    • GaieusG Offline
                      Gaieus
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                      If it is implemented, no doubt that it will be the same in the Pro and Free versions alike. So it's not a "Pro" feature request. As Thom is a Beta tester (andusing Mac, too), he may be bumping the idea in the official Feature Requests list (and yes, believe me, when they see that something is a major and reasonable requirement, they tend to listen - how on Earth do you think the back button came back in the component browser otherwise?)
                      πŸ˜‰

                      Gai...

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                      • T Offline
                        tfdesign
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                        @thomthom said:

                        I'm not a OSX user

                        Thom, I'm a bit confused, as you list yourself as an OSX user (in your details avatar)! πŸ˜•

                        This is a very wise idea btw, Google. I too am getting confused with my big colo(u)rs palette list. Please add me to the petition to fix this. πŸ˜„

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                          tfdesign
                          last edited by

                          @thomthom said:

                          If you do rework the material editor. Please, please, please make it stop opening up every time I activate the paintbucket. At least an option to do so. Even if it's a registry setting or other hidden tweak. Just let me not have to see that window pop up everytime.

                          ...guess it's Material-editor rant time...

                          No, good point! πŸ˜„

                          In fact can you engineer it so it behaves in the same way as the layers and component etc panels- ie a single click on the bar, closes the window- "Mac OS 9 windowshade", manner, just like the others (OS X and XP)? Because usually I have to pick the damn thing up and move it elsewhere, or simply just close it.

                          The other Tom (I was christened 'Thom' too! πŸ˜„ )

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                          • thomthomT Offline
                            thomthom
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                            @tfdesign said:

                            @thomthom said:

                            I'm not a OSX user

                            Thom, I'm a bit confused, as you list yourself as an OSX user (in your details avatar)! πŸ˜•

                            I have a old Mac Mini, from the first generation G4 type, which I use as a test machine for webdevelopment and ruby development. But I never use it for modelling work.

                            Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                            • B Offline
                              bjanzen
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                              Francois - no software company in their right mind will commit to saying "we will do x in six months", because, well, you know why (he says, with a lawyer's pen jammed to the back of his head) . We have lists of feature requests, that come from many sources. For example, many of you voted on feature requests recently using Googe Moderator. That was helpful, and we thank you for the feedback. We listen to it. I wont give you the exact process of how we work through these things, but there is one.

                              Even great ideas don't always get implemented for many reasons that may be very subtle. It's a very good suggestion for multiple reason and I personally like it, but there are no promises.

                              b

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                              • F Offline
                                frv
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                                Ok B, tx. I understand.

                                Thomthom , you might have a look at MXM reporter. He seems to have been able to make a panel rather easily.
                                http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=19850&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

                                Francois

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                                • thomthomT Offline
                                  thomthom
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                                  Yea, I just need to get a couple of other projects out of the way first.

                                  Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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