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    • pilouP Offline
      pilou
      last edited by

      The curious thing is that the Rail2 is a "straight line"
      So must be divided , then welded
      But result seems no reproductible and gives some nusty result 😮
      bug.png

      PS A multi-profils along Rail1 rail2 will be sweet too ☀

      Frenchy Pilou
      Is beautiful that please without concept!
      My Little site :)

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      • mitcorbM Offline
        mitcorb
        last edited by

        Pilou:
        I had similar results with the construction points on several attempts. Once, with rails made by Freehand tool and once with profile and rails made by Welded segments for profile and rails and once by smoothing out the profile with added arcs and Welding.
        Since TIG said the script was mostly stable, I figured that there would be some of this to happen.

        I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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        • TIGT Offline
          TIG Moderator
          last edited by

          @mitcorb said:

          Pilou:
          I had similar results with the construction points on several attempts. Once, with rails made by Freehand tool and once with profile and rails made by Welded segments for profile and rails and once by smoothing out the profile with added arcs and Welding.
          Since TIG said the script was mostly stable, I figured that there would be some of this to happen.

          Can you all give as much info about the failures as possible [PM me small skps if appropriate] Ruby Console messages etc - I want to debug this glitch 😒

          TIG

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          • mitcorbM Offline
            mitcorb
            last edited by

            TIG:
            Thanks for the Example skp.
            I will try to provide you with examples as time permits. And I have been observing the Ruby console.
            My last experiment was with Polyline Divider as the profile and rails from Fredo's Bezier collection. I got the mesh ok, but of course, the math complexity reversed and crisscrossed the beginning and ending copies of the profile causing an oblate spheroid bulge(same shape as an American football) and wings like Pilou's harlequin flying fish. However, there was no comment in the console.
            Unfortunately the file is saved on my home machine. I will have to send it later.

            I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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            • jeff hammondJ Offline
              jeff hammond
              last edited by

              hey TIG
              here's a problem i've run into sometimes in an instance where it seems it should work. i'm only getting partial results in this case.
              any ideas?


              railQ.skp

              dotdotdot

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              • pilouP Offline
                pilou
                last edited by

                With the Jeff curve
                I have black crosses in the v7 😮
                and a false surface in the V6 😉

                Frenchy Pilou
                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                My Little site :)

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                • jeff hammondJ Offline
                  jeff hammond
                  last edited by

                  using that same file, here's another weird thing i can't figure out. (a video's probably easiest for me because i don't have to type as much 😄)

                  (at first, it shows the problem i was previously talking about)
                  after that, i copy/move the profile and each rail the same amount along the red axis.. then end up with entirely different results.
                  ?

                  [flash=640,385:lwa8fguo]http://www.youtube.com/v/LN5Q9KjU9m0&hl=en_US&fs=1&[/flash:lwa8fguo]

                  dotdotdot

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                  • jeff hammondJ Offline
                    jeff hammond
                    last edited by

                    here's another question/problem i'm seeing..

                    it seems like the grid should line up according to the corresponding segments of the two rails (the 2rails being at the top&bottom of this picture)
                    .
                    click pic for larger

                    like this, there's a kink being created in the surface along the left edge (which is somewhat visible in the inset picture..the surface drops down prior to rising because it appears the grid line is in the wrong place).. i guess i could make the surface bigger than needed and trim away some of the outer edges but that's not really optimal.. if it's fixable, i think it's worth fixing.

                    thanks a ton for figuring all this stuff out ❗ 😄

                    dotdotdot

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                    • TIGT Offline
                      TIG Moderator
                      last edited by

                      These problems seem to relate to the way the vertices in the the curves are ordered. They are reordered by the script before making the mesh... BUT obviously not well enough in some cases.

                      If you explode the three curves in your railQ.skp in turn and then immediately weld them back into new curves they make the mesh perfectly... So my re-order and weld's must vary somewhere...

                      I'll look at the ordering algorithms etc and release an update asap... 😒

                      TIG

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                      • D Offline
                        Daniel S
                        last edited by

                        Amazing TIG!!!
                        Thanky you!!!

                        How about an option to maintain height?
                        In your script shape curves scale in both the height and width dimensions. It will be great to have an option to remove the association between the height scaling from the width scaling for some models.

                        As an example: here is what your script make:
                        2.gif

                        And here with Maintain height:
                        1.gif

                        Daniel S

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                        • jeff hammondJ Offline
                          jeff hammond
                          last edited by

                          @tig said:

                          These problems seem to relate to the way the vertices in the the curves are ordered. They are reordered by the script before making the mesh... BUT obviously not well enough in some cases.

                          didn't even realize vertices were in a particular order 😄 .. is the grid example something to do with the order as well or something different?

                          daniel, that's going into a different territory in that the profile changes as it moves along the rails (the halfcircle doesn't remain the same in terms of shape).. if something like that is possible in SU then i have another request that's similar though different.. i'll hold off on asking for now 😄

                          dotdotdot

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                          • P Offline
                            Panga
                            last edited by

                            Thanks a lot for this new tool, it'll be very usefull !!

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                            • pilouP Offline
                              pilou
                              last edited by

                              When you want draw a "straight" curve line with some number of segments for fit with other curves for The TIG Plug
                              Draw a line, Right Click Divide then Weld = some painful 😮

                              A more quicky trick 💭
                              Draw a polyline of 1 segment by the BezierSpline of Fredo6
                              Then Right Click / Convert to Segmentor and enter the number of segments 😉
                              Et voilà 💚

                              It's a pity than we can't draw an arc circle "Straight" or scale it to 0 or Bulge =0 ! 😡

                              Frenchy Pilou
                              Is beautiful that please without concept!
                              My Little site :)

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                              • MALAISEM Offline
                                MALAISE
                                last edited by

                                TIG some Champagne ?
                                Amazing tool made by TIG 👍 👍
                                MALAISE

                                La Connaissance n'a de valeur que partagée

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                                • X Offline
                                  xrok1
                                  last edited by

                                  great plug thanks!
                                  maybe you could combine this with edges by edges then have the option to pick just 1 rail or 2? one more function, one less plugin! 😄

                                  “There are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

                                  http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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                                  • X Offline
                                    xrok1
                                    last edited by

                                    Jeff, i found that if you explode the rails then weld them again that the problem is fixed. at least for me.

                                    “There are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

                                    http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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                                    • TIGT Offline
                                      TIG Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      @xrok1 said:

                                      Jeff, i found that if you explode the rails then weld them again that the problem is fixed. at least for me.

                                      This is the temporary fix... I'm incorporating this into the code so the glitches don't happen... However that makes new glitches which I'm now fixing............. 🤓

                                      TIG

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                                      • X Offline
                                        xrok1
                                        last edited by

                                        oops, sorry i could help. 😳
                                        😆

                                        “There are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

                                        http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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                                        • TIGT Offline
                                          TIG Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          xrok1 😉
                                          Your idea of being able to pick a profile and then pick just one rail is quite simple to do.
                                          For the next update I will add that option - you'll simply pick the profile and click on rail twice - if you pick another rail it works as now, if you pick the same rail again then it's assumed that it has a 'twin' at the other end of the profile and uses that... simplicity... 💭

                                          TIG

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                                          • utilerU Offline
                                            utiler
                                            last edited by

                                            TIG, probably a silly question, but what is the difference from this plugin and extrudebyedges?
                                            http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=20065&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=extrude+edges

                                            Is is simple that this script allows for more random meshes?

                                            purpose/expression/purpose/....

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