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    [Plugin][$] FredoScale - v3.6a - 01 Apr 24

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    • jeff hammondJ 離線
      jeff hammond
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      @icchan said:

      Thanks for the tip, it does work as I needed with arcs, but the problem remains for rectangles or other non-regular shapes.

      You can do it with rectangles and odd shapes as well but it requires a little setup. There's another way to do this with a rectangle too.
      I'm on a phone right now but when I get back to the hotel tonight, I'll post a little tutorial.

      dotdotdot

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      • jeff hammondJ 離線
        jeff hammond
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        if you weld the segments into a polyline, the scaling with the move tool will work..
        with the rectangle, you weld 3 sides and leave the bottom untouched.. after scaling, select the 3 welded lines and explode if you wish..

        i also included an alternate method using guide lines to create an intersection which the scale tool will snap to..
        [i use jim's cline tool for the diagonal]
        http://sketchuptips.blogspot.com/2008/02/plugin-construction-line-tool.html

        [flash=800,475:m8lhsjxs]http://www.youtube.com/v/4Zx7dt58v7w?fs=1&hl=en_US&rel=0&hd=1&color1=0x2b405b&color2=0x6b8ab6[/flash:m8lhsjxs]

        dotdotdot

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        • I 離線
          Icchan
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          Wow... I was at most expecting an explanation for the tool behavior, was not definitely expecting a detailed tutorial! Excellent job, I hope others with similar problems will find this also. Thanks!

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          • bmikeB 離線
            bmike
            最後由 編輯

            Getting this error now when I open SketchUp.
            I thought I updated a bunch of Plugins... apparently something went wrong.


            skuperror.png

            mike beganyi design + consulting llc

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            • C 離線
              ckho1985
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              @bmike said:

              Getting this error now when I open SketchUp.
              I thought I updated a bunch of Plugins... apparently something went wrong.

              I think it is not compatible with sketchup 8 yet. Is there a FredoScale for Skup8?
              please update.... I looooooove this tool

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              • thomthomT 離線
                thomthom
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                It's working with SU8.
                Have you ensure you have installed the files correctly?

                Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                • C 離線
                  ckho1985
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                  I got it working now. it is WORKING with skup8. its confirmed. i just miss-copied a folder previously, thats all. (stuipd me 😳 )

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                  • bmikeB 離線
                    bmike
                    最後由 編輯

                    fixed. cleaned up my plugins folder and went back / downloaded / reinstalled all relevant files.
                    loading now, and toolbars popped up.
                    will test later when i get into a model.

                    mike beganyi design + consulting llc

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                    • D 離線
                      DIEGO-RODRIGUEZ
                      最後由 編輯

                      stretching with orientation of scaling box

                      small error.
                      does not work "stretching with orientation of scaling box", with arcs and polylines

                      Untitled.gif

                      possible, correct this error?

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                      • TIGT 離線
                        TIG Moderator
                        最後由 編輯

                        You could temporarily add another line between the arc's ends to form a face then scale the lot then erase the temporary line on completion...

                        TIG

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                        • D 離線
                          DIEGO-RODRIGUEZ
                          最後由 編輯

                          hi tig. Yes, I thought the same, but does not work


                          Untitled1.gif

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                          • thomthomT 離線
                            thomthom
                            最後由 編輯

                            Arcs and Curves applies constraints on transformations unless they are exploded.

                            Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                            • TIGT 離線
                              TIG Moderator
                              最後由 編輯

                              So Explode them, Scale and then re-Weld into Curves ?

                              TIG

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                              • D 離線
                                DIEGO-RODRIGUEZ
                                最後由 編輯

                                @thomthom said:

                                Arcs and Curves applies constraints on transformations unless they are exploded.

                                yes?
                                is strange that all fredoscale tools work well with arc and polylines.
                                no need to exploit the arcs and polylines

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                                • fredo6F 離線
                                  fredo6
                                  最後由 編輯

                                  @diego-rodriguez said:

                                  stretching with orientation of scaling box

                                  small error.
                                  does not work "stretching with orientation of scaling box", with arcs and polylines

                                  [attachment=0:lcmr75ft]<!-- ia0 -->Untitled.gif<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:lcmr75ft]

                                  possible, correct this error?

                                  Diego,

                                  As mentioned in the Doc, FredoScale does not stretch the SU curves. That's just a design choice, because SU does not stretch curves and I would have had to explode the curve, strech the edges and then reconstruct the curves (thios would have been destructive and probably not possible for an interactive visual deformation). It stretches normally if the curve if exploded.

                                  Fredo

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                                  • D 離線
                                    DIEGO-RODRIGUEZ
                                    最後由 編輯

                                    thank you all for the explanation

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                                    • fredo6F 離線
                                      fredo6
                                      最後由 編輯

                                      @diego-rodriguez said:

                                      thank you all for the explanation

                                      Stretch is no more than using the Move tool on the vertices of segment. You can do it manually and FredoScale just automates this process.

                                      As you can notice, all SU Curves move as a whole whatever vertex or edge you select.

                                      Fredo

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                                      • D 離線
                                        DIEGO-RODRIGUEZ
                                        最後由 編輯

                                        if, extends what do you say.
                                        although my initial question was related to can deform curves, non symmetrical.
                                        But this work can be done manually. only if this work is automatic is more practical

                                        thank you very much again

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                                        • P 離線
                                          pianosmalos
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                                          Hi Fredo. As others, I am absolutely amazed about how powerful your tools is. However I found this problem (see attached pic) anytime I try to do a bend which is not coplanar to an existing component face.

                                          In this basic case, I tried a bend using the plane behind the object as a bending plane, whereas I applied the origin onto a random point on the middle of the object's top surface. It always fails, no matter what the object is.

                                          But I also realized that, if I apply the origin on a real point within the component (intersection point, point from an edge of the object), the tool works perfectly.

                                          I post it here, in case you think this is a bug or just the way it works.

                                          Thanks a lot, thumbs up for your great work! 👍 👍 👍


                                          Bend Failure.jpg

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                                          • mitcorbM 離線
                                            mitcorb
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                                            If I may suggest: (probably not the problem)
                                            Try scaling the geometry up x10, x100, or some other factor temporarily for the operation, then scaling down by the inverse factor. As you may already know, if the edge distances are sufficiently small, Sketchup/OpenGL cannot close faces, especially when it has to generate new logical edges on a distorted boundary.

                                            Like I said, this may not be the problem, just something to rule out.

                                            I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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