[Plugin][$] FredoScale - v3.6a - 01 Apr 24

Icchan · 12 Oct 2010, 20:20

Well, I need the corner of the bottom edge of the shape (the arch, in my case) to touch a line.

Of course I could measure the ratio by hand, but it won't give accurate enough results so that the corner is exactly on the line. That's why I was hoping this tool would do it for me. When I tried the scale tool in normal mode, it does not snap correctly to the other edge, even if I put a guide point or an endpoint there. The little yellow box does snap to an endpoint, but it doesn't correlate with behavior of the scale tool, ie. it ignores the snap target completely and scales in freeform.

jeff hammond · 12 Oct 2010, 20:57

@icchan said:

Well, I need the corner of the bottom edge of the shape (the arch, in my case) to touch a line.

if that's an arc (as in, SU will say it's an arc in entity info), then just use the move tool

don't select the arc first.. just place the move tool cursor on the end of the arc, click and move it to the end..
if it's an arc, it will scale accordingly.

[actually, that should work with polylines or welded lines as well]

[edit] yeah, forget the bit about it needing to be an arc..

Icchan · 13 Oct 2010, 07:27

Thanks for the tip, it does work as I needed with arcs, but the problem remains for rectangles or other non-regular shapes.

jeff hammond · 14 Oct 2010, 12:33

@icchan said:

Thanks for the tip, it does work as I needed with arcs, but the problem remains for rectangles or other non-regular shapes.

You can do it with rectangles and odd shapes as well but it requires a little setup. There's another way to do this with a rectangle too.
I'm on a phone right now but when I get back to the hotel tonight, I'll post a little tutorial.

jeff hammond · 15 Oct 2010, 00:59

if you weld the segments into a polyline, the scaling with the move tool will work..
with the rectangle, you weld 3 sides and leave the bottom untouched.. after scaling, select the 3 welded lines and explode if you wish..

i also included an alternate method using guide lines to create an intersection which the scale tool will snap to..
[i use jim's cline tool for the diagonal]
http://sketchuptips.blogspot.com/2008/02/plugin-construction-line-tool.html

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Icchan · 15 Oct 2010, 09:35

Wow... I was at most expecting an explanation for the tool behavior, was not definitely expecting a detailed tutorial! Excellent job, I hope others with similar problems will find this also. Thanks!

bmike · 22 Oct 2010, 12:43

Getting this error now when I open SketchUp.
I thought I updated a bunch of Plugins... apparently something went wrong.

ckho1985 · 22 Oct 2010, 13:04

@bmike said:

Getting this error now when I open SketchUp.
I thought I updated a bunch of Plugins... apparently something went wrong.

I think it is not compatible with sketchup 8 yet. Is there a FredoScale for Skup8?
please update.... I looooooove this tool

thomthom · 22 Oct 2010, 13:18

It's working with SU8.
Have you ensure you have installed the files correctly?

ckho1985 · 22 Oct 2010, 14:05

I got it working now. it is WORKING with skup8. its confirmed. i just miss-copied a folder previously, thats all. (stuipd me )

bmike · 22 Oct 2010, 14:06

fixed. cleaned up my plugins folder and went back / downloaded / reinstalled all relevant files.
loading now, and toolbars popped up.
will test later when i get into a model.

DIEGO-RODRIGUEZ · 25 Oct 2010, 14:04

stretching with orientation of scaling box

small error.
does not work "stretching with orientation of scaling box", with arcs and polylines

possible, correct this error?

TIG · 25 Oct 2010, 14:17

You could temporarily add another line between the arc's ends to form a face then scale the lot then erase the temporary line on completion...

DIEGO-RODRIGUEZ · 25 Oct 2010, 14:29

hi tig. Yes, I thought the same, but does not work

thomthom · 25 Oct 2010, 14:30

Arcs and Curves applies constraints on transformations unless they are exploded.

TIG · 25 Oct 2010, 14:39

So Explode them, Scale and then re-Weld into Curves ?

DIEGO-RODRIGUEZ · 25 Oct 2010, 15:06

@thomthom said:

Arcs and Curves applies constraints on transformations unless they are exploded.

yes?
is strange that all fredoscale tools work well with arc and polylines.
no need to exploit the arcs and polylines

fredo6 · 25 Oct 2010, 20:58

@diego-rodriguez said:

stretching with orientation of scaling box

small error.
does not work "stretching with orientation of scaling box", with arcs and polylines

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possible, correct this error?

Diego,

As mentioned in the Doc, FredoScale does not stretch the SU curves. That's just a design choice, because SU does not stretch curves and I would have had to explode the curve, strech the edges and then reconstruct the curves (thios would have been destructive and probably not possible for an interactive visual deformation). It stretches normally if the curve if exploded.

Fredo

DIEGO-RODRIGUEZ · 25 Oct 2010, 22:11

thank you all for the explanation

fredo6 · 26 Oct 2010, 14:43

@diego-rodriguez said:

thank you all for the explanation

Stretch is no more than using the Move tool on the vertices of segment. You can do it manually and FredoScale just automates this process.

As you can notice, all SU Curves move as a whole whatever vertex or edge you select.

Fredo