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      xrok1
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      ha, looks like a glitch. i can hear the gears turning, it wouldn't surprise me if someone can pervert this into a bend ruby. 😄

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        ton baeten
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        The unexpected depts of SketchUp!
        This 'feature' has always been there, but hardly anyone ever payed any attention to it....untill now.
        It's fun, interesting and intriguing at the same time.
        I have been playing with it for hours and created unexpected shapes and forms within minutes.
        It took me some time to really 'get' the tricks shown in all of KitoRaub's videos, I replayed them a couple of times, but in fact the trick is just adding a coherent, simple, sticking, visible geometry to a 3d shape and manipulating just that geometry with standard SU functions. No rubies needed, just simple SU.
        The videos show a bit of perpendicular rotation and scaling of the selection, but I have already found out it is not limited to these. More basic SU functionality can be used and combinations result in very unexpected free formed shapes.
        The only thing now is to learn how to control the results of a deformation: what happens and why?
        Try and error will be the road to go, but I have already found a new and easy way to create some shapes which took me qiute a hard time, untill now.
        Thanks Watkins for your finding.

        greetings,
        Ton

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          Teezer
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          New toy! Yummy...

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            Ecuadorian
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              thomthom
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              That method with selecting a line along the length of a segmented tube, using the protractor to bend it... what on earth is going on here? I don't understand. I see it working, but I don't understand. Though, somewhat unpredictable, it's very cool.

              Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                pilou
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                @unknownuser said:

                what on earth is going on here? I don't understand. I see it working, but I don't understand

                Maybe like this? 😉
                As the spiral line is inside each little "squares" (hidden geometry) and these are "unbreakable" all must follow! 💚


                poterie.jpg

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                  jeff hammond
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                  pilou, thomas is talking about a separate techinique

                  watch this and please tell me what is happening.
                  http://homepage.mac.com/jeffhammond/.Public/scf/Qtool.mov

                  .

                  dotdotdot

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                    kwistenbiebel
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                    Could this technique be made into a ruby?
                    Following what I see in the youtube (using the auxiliary spiral), this could be done, right?

                    A ruby that would model the spiral for you and make the scaling behave as described in this thread would be wonderful. 👍

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                      thomthom
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                      @kwistenbiebel said:

                      Could this technique be made into a ruby?
                      Following what I see in the youtube (using the auxiliary spiral), this could be done, right?

                      A ruby that would model the spiral for you and make the scaling behave as described in this thread would be wonderful. 👍

                      Harnessing it into something more controllable... hmmm..

                      Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                        pilou
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                        @unknownuser said:

                        watch this and please tell me what is happening.

                        Maybe this little image can explicit that 😉
                        No magic inside, it's totally normal! 💚 (click image if scrollbars)

                        It's like escarpolette (seesaw) 😄 Ground don't move! ☀

                        http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_2_TqsqwsOK0/Rix6rKL7-eI/AAAAAAAAAxg/DYKg5G-N6ak/s400/fragonard+escarpolette.jpg


                        hehe.jpg

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                          Ecuadorian
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                          Just stick to the standard 640x480 size and you'll get no scrollbars.

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                            xrok1
                            last edited by

                            pilou, it works with no bottom as well! you may have something with the triangle thought but it would be the triangle nearest to the selected edges that would be effecting the shape not the ones on the opposite flat side.

                            “There are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

                            http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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                              pilou
                              last edited by

                              Yep but these are fixed too! 😉fixed.jpg

                              Frenchy Pilou
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                                thomthom
                                last edited by

                                But how come it only grows?

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                                  Gaieus
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                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_2_TqsqwsOK0/Rix6rKL7-eI/AAAAAAAAAxg/DYKg5G-N6ak/s400/fragonard+escarpolette.jpg

                                  Hm... Fragonard...
                                  Good taste, Pilou (I think I'd better go back to teach art history 😉 )

                                  Gai...

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                                    pilou
                                    last edited by

                                    @unknownuser said:

                                    Just stick to the standard 640x480 size and you'll get no scrollbars.

                                    But i was under with 547*358 😮

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                                      pilou
                                      last edited by

                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      But how come it only grows?

                                      Only grow? No grow and ungrow!

                                      Because face arcs' side are fixed on their "bases" and make "pivot"
                                      All up mesh is free to deform!

                                      See first second of that 😄 (second 10 to second 15)
                                      [attachment=0:15wm2z0r]<!-- ia0 -->cards.jpg<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:15wm2z0r]

                                      http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/download/file.php?id=23945

                                      Frenchy Pilou
                                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                      My Little site :)

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                                      • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                        jeff hammond
                                        last edited by

                                        here's a variation which keeps the hidden line straight during the rotation and allows the base to move..

                                        variation.skp

                                        variationbase.jpg

                                        explode the arc then weld the segements together prior to building the base..

                                        dotdotdot

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                                          jeff hammond
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                                          @ecuadorian said:

                                          Just stick to the standard 640x480 size and you'll get no scrollbars.

                                          just click on the picture and you won't have to scroll. 😄

                                          dotdotdot

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                                            BTM
                                            last edited by

                                            Ah! My post is gone.

                                            ...Now a shorter rewrite...

                                            I think what's happening, and maybe what Pilou's trying to say, is that the ends of the arcs are stationary, and the arc has to stay and arc, and therefore the area selected can't rotate, because it can't deform the arc. So you're trying to rotate something that can't be rotated. I don't know exactly why it expands the arc, maybe it's trying too hard to have it rotate, and the only place for it to move is up.

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