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    Shaping a cylinder - interesting technique

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    • pilouP Offline
      pilou
      last edited by

      @unknownuser said:

      watch this and please tell me what is happening.

      Maybe this little image can explicit that 😉
      No magic inside, it's totally normal! 💚 (click image if scrollbars)

      It's like escarpolette (seesaw) 😄 Ground don't move! ☀

      http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_2_TqsqwsOK0/Rix6rKL7-eI/AAAAAAAAAxg/DYKg5G-N6ak/s400/fragonard+escarpolette.jpg


      hehe.jpg

      Frenchy Pilou
      Is beautiful that please without concept!
      My Little site :)

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        Ecuadorian
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        Just stick to the standard 640x480 size and you'll get no scrollbars.

        -Miguel Lescano
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          xrok1
          last edited by

          pilou, it works with no bottom as well! you may have something with the triangle thought but it would be the triangle nearest to the selected edges that would be effecting the shape not the ones on the opposite flat side.

          “There are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

          http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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          • pilouP Offline
            pilou
            last edited by

            Yep but these are fixed too! 😉fixed.jpg

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            • thomthomT Offline
              thomthom
              last edited by

              But how come it only grows?

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              • GaieusG Offline
                Gaieus
                last edited by

                @unknownuser said:

                http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_2_TqsqwsOK0/Rix6rKL7-eI/AAAAAAAAAxg/DYKg5G-N6ak/s400/fragonard+escarpolette.jpg

                Hm... Fragonard...
                Good taste, Pilou (I think I'd better go back to teach art history 😉 )

                Gai...

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                • pilouP Offline
                  pilou
                  last edited by

                  @unknownuser said:

                  Just stick to the standard 640x480 size and you'll get no scrollbars.

                  But i was under with 547*358 😮

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                  • pilouP Offline
                    pilou
                    last edited by

                    @unknownuser said:

                    But how come it only grows?

                    Only grow? No grow and ungrow!

                    Because face arcs' side are fixed on their "bases" and make "pivot"
                    All up mesh is free to deform!

                    See first second of that 😄 (second 10 to second 15)
                    [attachment=0:15wm2z0r]<!-- ia0 -->cards.jpg<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:15wm2z0r]

                    http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/download/file.php?id=23945

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                    • jeff hammondJ Offline
                      jeff hammond
                      last edited by

                      here's a variation which keeps the hidden line straight during the rotation and allows the base to move..

                      variation.skp

                      variationbase.jpg

                      explode the arc then weld the segements together prior to building the base..

                      dotdotdot

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                      • jeff hammondJ Offline
                        jeff hammond
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                        @ecuadorian said:

                        Just stick to the standard 640x480 size and you'll get no scrollbars.

                        just click on the picture and you won't have to scroll. 😄

                        dotdotdot

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                        • B Offline
                          BTM
                          last edited by

                          Ah! My post is gone.

                          ...Now a shorter rewrite...

                          I think what's happening, and maybe what Pilou's trying to say, is that the ends of the arcs are stationary, and the arc has to stay and arc, and therefore the area selected can't rotate, because it can't deform the arc. So you're trying to rotate something that can't be rotated. I don't know exactly why it expands the arc, maybe it's trying too hard to have it rotate, and the only place for it to move is up.

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                          • J Offline
                            Jim57
                            last edited by

                            I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong (or not doing), but neither of these works for me. What exactly are you grabbing with the Rotate tool? One of the straight hidden geometries that goes from end to end? Over what length? When I download the example above I can only twist a small bit of surface.

                            On the full cylinder, same thing— I get wild deformations coming out of every which way when I Scale the spiral, but not the smooth shapings in the video.

                            TIA,

                            JIm

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                            • simon le bonS Offline
                              simon le bon
                              last edited by

                              Goodmorning Sketchy Fellows,

                              I come back to the initial subject of this thread for I have to say one: "what a fantastic and fun way to potter a shape !!", and secondly to ask a question I can't answer by myself.

                              Why only a 15° disc rotation allows copy of ring angled edges to fit with the source, whatever the height is?

                              http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/th_spiral_ep.jpg
                              .
                              http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/th_spiral_15d.jpg

                              ❓ ❓ simon

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                                Ecuadorian
                                last edited by

                                360º (full circle) / 24 sides in circle (SketchUp default) = 15º

                                If you want to use a 10º degree rotation you need to start with 36 sides in the circle.

                                If you want to do it with 20º, you need an 18-sided circle.

                                -Miguel Lescano
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                                • simon le bonS Offline
                                  simon le bon
                                  last edited by

                                  Dear Miguel, the Ecuadorian man 👍 👍

                                  I'm still far to understand the theorical's behavior of this, but i am right now able to manage the technic.. Many thanks 😉 simon

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                                  • simon le bonS Offline
                                    simon le bon
                                    last edited by

                                    @unknownuser said:

                                    I'm still far to understand the theorical's behavior of this

                                    I was thinking of it in the very morning before wake! And i've find this is not something of "big theory" as I thought, but something pretty simple 😄

                                    http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/spir_A.jpg


                                    http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/th_spir_B.jpg


                                    http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/th_spir_C.jpg


                                    The technic developped by KitoRaupp in his videos is not so easy to understand. For me, a plain hour to understand and reach the good result!
                                    So I've made a video to explain it better (I'm the author of nothing here):
                                    http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/th_KitoRauppPottery.jpg

                                    simon

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