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    • JQLJ 離線
      JQL
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      David, send me your file, I'll configure it, and send it back. Name the Scenes wisely so I know what you're talking about and describe your issues on a PM. I'll explain exactly what I did and then you could probably understand it better.

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      • david_hD 離線
        david_h
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        Okay . .. I just got a new computer and have reinstalled SU. A lot of this stuff I did so long ago that I can't remember anymore how I did it. My problem here is I had a shortcut for edge style by exis that shows the axes in their respective green, red and blue colors. It used to be accessed via "View>Rendering>Axis"

        axis_1.pngaxis_2.jpg

        But on my new download of SU that is no longer there! Any ideas how I can shortcut this?

        Thx,

        D

        If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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        • C 離線
          Charlie__V
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          @david_h said:

          Okay . .. I just got a new computer and have reinstalled SU. A lot of this stuff I did so long ago that I can't remember anymore how I did it. My problem here is I had a shortcut for edge style by exis that shows the axes in their respective green, red and blue colors. It used to be accessed via "View>Rendering>Axis"

          [attachment=2:1fhbp1h6]<!-- ia2 -->axis_1.png<!-- ia2 -->[/attachment:1fhbp1h6][attachment=1:1fhbp1h6]<!-- ia1 -->axis_2.jpg<!-- ia1 -->[/attachment:1fhbp1h6]

          But on my new download of SU that is no longer there! Any ideas how I can shortcut this?

          Thx,

          D

          Should be there....I just checked on my install (SU Pro 2016)


          EdgebyAxis.JPG

          Precision M1710/Win 7 Pro 64 bit/i-7 6920 Quad core 2.9 Ghz -3.8/16Gb ram/NVIDIA M5000M 8Gb

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          • david_hD 離線
            david_h
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            Yeah. .. my menu shows that as well, and set the old shortcut accordingly, but problem is. . .there is no View/Rendering .. . on the pull down. It's like that has gone away. Regardless, the shortcut doesn't work. .. cuz it seems that the path is wrong.
            axis_3.jpg

            So i have to go thru the styles dialogue to change it manually. Bit of a pain. Like I said.. . i haven't had to worry about this for years, so I have forgotten a lot of this stuff.

            If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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            • TIGT 離線
              TIG Moderator
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              Some shortcut-able commands simply don't [now] appear in the main menus.
              And the View/Rendering/Edge/By Material is one such...
              It is accessed via the Style > Edit panel...
              But by using the 'filter' you can get the command to list, then select it and [re]set the desired shortcut to it...

              TIG

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              • david_hD 離線
                david_h
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                Thx TIG . . .unfortunately the Shortcut will take me to the menu, but I still have to do the manual switching to color by axis. .. which for as often as I use it is okay, but it is kinda frustrating that they fix what ain't broke.

                If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                • ely862meE 離線
                  ely862me
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                  You can force axis inference with the rotate tool by tapping the arrow keys !!
                  You can edit the component settings in the In model components Edit !
                  You can change the component axes from the inside of the component by right clicking outside the geometry.

                  DUH!!

                  Elisei (sketchupper)


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                  • J 離線
                    JGA
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                    David,
                    Could you not just set up a style to show the edge value you want, then assign just the style to a scene tab?

                    Regards,
                    JGA

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                    • Dave RD 離線
                      Dave R
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                      @david_h said:

                      Thx TIG . . .unfortunately the Shortcut will take me to the menu, but I still have to do the manual switching to color by axis. .. which for as often as I use it is okay, but it is kinda frustrating that they fix what ain't broke.

                      I don't normally need to do this as I don't use Color by Axis very often but I just set up a keyboard shortcut for View/Rendering/Edge/By Axis and it toggles between All Same and By Axis with no problem.

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                      • david_hD 離線
                        david_h
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                        yeah. . . that's the way I used to have it. . .but in the new View Pull-down... View>Rendering>Edge by Axis is no longer there. See pic above. Hence the problem. the closest Shortcut I could find was the one that takes me to the styles menu and then I still had to click.
                        NO worries. i don't use it that often either , but it's handy when I need to check things.

                        I'll find a work around I guess.

                        If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                        • BoxB 離線
                          Box
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                          I know we are in the Doh thread but.... Doh. David, Dave is saying use the shortcut settings that you will find in Windows/Preferences/Shortcuts to set a keystroke to that specific visual setting that you want.

                          In other words, make a shortcut so when you hit a key combination of your choice, or even one key, the style will change to Colour By Axis.

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                          • david_hD 離線
                            david_h
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                            okay. . .I'm not a wizard here. It seems to me I have done that. I obviously am missing something. Not ashamed to admit it. Check my posts above to get the history of this and then I am more than happy to be schooled.

                            If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                            • Dave RD 離線
                              Dave R
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                              David, I'm not trying to school you but here's what I have.

                              Keyboard shortcut is set.
                              Screenshot - 3_11_2016 , 10_13_30 AM.png

                              Edge settings for my normal default style.
                              Screenshot - 3_11_2016 , 10_13_58 AM.png

                              After hitting Shift+A to toggle the edge color by axis. It even shows the on axis edges colored in the thumbnail. Note, I only chose that shortcut because I knew it wasn't already used.
                              Screenshot - 3_11_2016 , 10_14_26 AM.png

                              It toggles back and forth as expected.

                              Etaoin Shrdlu

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                              • BoxB 離線
                                Box
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                                Is this what you want? Sorry I did ctrl e rather than your preferred ctrl shift a.


                                By Axis.gif

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                                • david_hD 離線
                                  david_h
                                  最後由 編輯

                                  Dave R and Box. Sorry. DIdn't mean to sound defensive or whatever. I need to turn in my Green 'Top Sketchucator Badge" it was erroneously bestowed anyway.

                                  I will re-look at this as per your hints. actually, I am not Skupping as much as I used to so I forget a lot of things.

                                  again. . it's not keeping me up at night. . .yet

                                  But It would be nice to get this resolved.

                                  thank you so much.

                                  D

                                  If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                                  • X 離線
                                    xone
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                                    Unsure if the right place to ask but I got a little issue with the new reference point stuff in Sketchup 2016.

                                    Previously whenever we reference something, the cursor / protractor will go to the point of transform ON the object I want to adjust.

                                    But now in Sketchup 2016, when I try to rotate something, I got mighty confused as the protractor appear at somewhere else, stuck behind/inside objects, parallel to the referred surface. INSTEAD of going to the point of rotation.

                                    Is there a setting or something to go back to the old way?

                                    http://i.imgur.com/deWhqAp.jpg

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                                    • Dave RD 離線
                                      Dave R
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                                      In your screen shot from 2016 you have back edges turned on. Do you get the same result if you have them turned off?

                                      Etaoin Shrdlu

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                                      • X 離線
                                        xone
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                                        @dave r said:

                                        In your screen shot from 2016 you have back edges turned on. Do you get the same result if you have them turned off?

                                        Yes I have to turn on back edge to even see the protractor which appear behind/inside other objects.
                                        If I turn off back edge then I can't see the protractor in this example as it appear behind the cylinder.

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                                        • S 離線
                                          shawb
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                                          My most recent Duh! moment was finding that in the VCB (measurement field)if either of the two lengths was what you need just type the separator comma followed by a number or a number followed by the comma and Enter.

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                                          • S 離線
                                            shawb
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                                            @bob james said:

                                            @bob james said:

                                            @jql said:

                                            Apologies accepted if you post it on the Duh thread!

                                            So here goes my duh:

                                            @bob james said:

                                            This seems so simple that it must already exist, but I could not find it.

                                            For example: I want to make a 4" square post at a specific spot. If I wanted a round post there I would just select the circle tool, place the cursor at the point and drag out (or put a value in the VCB).

                                            I'd like to be able to do that for a square: select tool, place the cursor at the point and drag out (or put a value in the VCB)

                                            I apologize if this already exists

                                            @jql said:

                                            LOL bob you can make your life difficult if you draw a 4 sided circle and explode it.

                                            Or you can make your life painless if you draw a 4 sided polygon without exploding it.

                                            Those two are native tools. Do you forget sketchup also has native tools?

                                            Your suggestions create 45 deg rotated squares.
                                            Why can't someone just make a simple extension to make an orthogonally positioned square starting from a center point?

                                            How about this?

                                            Use the four sided polygon as suggested. Place an initial polygon on the line of axis (your fence line?) with the placement/inference line on this axis. You now have a rotated 4 sided polygon at 45 deg to the axis. Place the actual fence post polygon to the required centre spot and use its placement line to pick-up a perpendicular inference from the initial polygon. Your fence post is now square on to the fence line. Hope I have placed this reply correctly.

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