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    • gonashviliG Offline
      gonashvili
      last edited by

      Oh!!! Hah, thanks a lot man!

      I mean, DOH! of course.

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      • JQLJ Offline
        JQL
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        @david_h said:

        Specifically, I want one particular scene to be a section but not others I update via the scenes menu, and ONLY that scene but when I tab thru the others the section plane is still active and I have to switch it off.

        Basically, you're missing the meaning of having those checkboxes checked.

        What they mean is:

        • When you're creating a scene only the settings that are checked will be stored. All unchecked settings will be not be stored. (Checking sections box on will store current sections settings. If you have an Active section it will be the active section for the scene. If you have no active section, the scene will have no section affecting it. If there are no sections in the scene, then you'll also have no section affecting it.)

        • When you have settings unchecked, then you're not storing a state for that section on the scene. (Unchecking Sections will make the scene don't care if a section is active or not. If you insert a section in the model, the scene will be cut, if you change to another scene and come back to this scene, the section from the other scene will still be active, if you change to a scene that has no active section, coming back will keep the scene without an active setting.) Unchecked settings are, therefore, neutral. They can be either on or off, depending on what was the current state when you changed to that scene...

        So, in fact, unchecking sections will not make the model fully viewable. It will "randomize" the sections on that scene, unless you know what you're doing, you'll have no control.

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        • david_hD Offline
          david_h
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          @jql said:

          It will "randomize" the sections on that scene, unless you know what you're doing, you'll have no control.

          thanks for the response. I think i got half of that. πŸŽ‰ But your last sentence kinda summed it up. Is there a Tutorial or something that talks about this? I thought it was much simpler and clearer back in the old days when these were called "Pages". Seemed to work better. 😞

          If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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          • JQLJ Offline
            JQL
            last edited by

            David, send me your file, I'll configure it, and send it back. Name the Scenes wisely so I know what you're talking about and describe your issues on a PM. I'll explain exactly what I did and then you could probably understand it better.

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            • david_hD Offline
              david_h
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              Okay . .. I just got a new computer and have reinstalled SU. A lot of this stuff I did so long ago that I can't remember anymore how I did it. My problem here is I had a shortcut for edge style by exis that shows the axes in their respective green, red and blue colors. It used to be accessed via "View>Rendering>Axis"

              axis_1.pngaxis_2.jpg

              But on my new download of SU that is no longer there! Any ideas how I can shortcut this?

              Thx,

              D

              If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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              • C Offline
                Charlie__V
                last edited by

                @david_h said:

                Okay . .. I just got a new computer and have reinstalled SU. A lot of this stuff I did so long ago that I can't remember anymore how I did it. My problem here is I had a shortcut for edge style by exis that shows the axes in their respective green, red and blue colors. It used to be accessed via "View>Rendering>Axis"

                [attachment=2:1fhbp1h6]<!-- ia2 -->axis_1.png<!-- ia2 -->[/attachment:1fhbp1h6][attachment=1:1fhbp1h6]<!-- ia1 -->axis_2.jpg<!-- ia1 -->[/attachment:1fhbp1h6]

                But on my new download of SU that is no longer there! Any ideas how I can shortcut this?

                Thx,

                D

                Should be there....I just checked on my install (SU Pro 2016)


                EdgebyAxis.JPG

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                • david_hD Offline
                  david_h
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                  Yeah. .. my menu shows that as well, and set the old shortcut accordingly, but problem is. . .there is no View/Rendering .. . on the pull down. It's like that has gone away. Regardless, the shortcut doesn't work. .. cuz it seems that the path is wrong.
                  axis_3.jpg

                  So i have to go thru the styles dialogue to change it manually. Bit of a pain. Like I said.. . i haven't had to worry about this for years, so I have forgotten a lot of this stuff.

                  If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                  • TIGT Offline
                    TIG Moderator
                    last edited by

                    Some shortcut-able commands simply don't [now] appear in the main menus.
                    And the View/Rendering/Edge/By Material is one such...
                    It is accessed via the Style > Edit panel...
                    But by using the 'filter' you can get the command to list, then select it and [re]set the desired shortcut to it...

                    TIG

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                    • david_hD Offline
                      david_h
                      last edited by

                      Thx TIG . . .unfortunately the Shortcut will take me to the menu, but I still have to do the manual switching to color by axis. .. which for as often as I use it is okay, but it is kinda frustrating that they fix what ain't broke.

                      If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                      • ely862meE Offline
                        ely862me
                        last edited by

                        You can force axis inference with the rotate tool by tapping the arrow keys !!
                        You can edit the component settings in the In model components Edit !
                        You can change the component axes from the inside of the component by right clicking outside the geometry.

                        DUH!!

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                        • J Offline
                          JGA
                          last edited by

                          David,
                          Could you not just set up a style to show the edge value you want, then assign just the style to a scene tab?

                          Regards,
                          JGA

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                          • Dave RD Offline
                            Dave R
                            last edited by

                            @david_h said:

                            Thx TIG . . .unfortunately the Shortcut will take me to the menu, but I still have to do the manual switching to color by axis. .. which for as often as I use it is okay, but it is kinda frustrating that they fix what ain't broke.

                            I don't normally need to do this as I don't use Color by Axis very often but I just set up a keyboard shortcut for View/Rendering/Edge/By Axis and it toggles between All Same and By Axis with no problem.

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                            • david_hD Offline
                              david_h
                              last edited by

                              yeah. . . that's the way I used to have it. . .but in the new View Pull-down... View>Rendering>Edge by Axis is no longer there. See pic above. Hence the problem. the closest Shortcut I could find was the one that takes me to the styles menu and then I still had to click.
                              NO worries. i don't use it that often either , but it's handy when I need to check things.

                              I'll find a work around I guess.

                              If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                              • BoxB Offline
                                Box
                                last edited by

                                I know we are in the Doh thread but.... Doh. David, Dave is saying use the shortcut settings that you will find in Windows/Preferences/Shortcuts to set a keystroke to that specific visual setting that you want.

                                In other words, make a shortcut so when you hit a key combination of your choice, or even one key, the style will change to Colour By Axis.

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                                • david_hD Offline
                                  david_h
                                  last edited by

                                  okay. . .I'm not a wizard here. It seems to me I have done that. I obviously am missing something. Not ashamed to admit it. Check my posts above to get the history of this and then I am more than happy to be schooled.

                                  If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                                  • Dave RD Offline
                                    Dave R
                                    last edited by

                                    David, I'm not trying to school you but here's what I have.

                                    Keyboard shortcut is set.
                                    Screenshot - 3_11_2016 , 10_13_30 AM.png

                                    Edge settings for my normal default style.
                                    Screenshot - 3_11_2016 , 10_13_58 AM.png

                                    After hitting Shift+A to toggle the edge color by axis. It even shows the on axis edges colored in the thumbnail. Note, I only chose that shortcut because I knew it wasn't already used.
                                    Screenshot - 3_11_2016 , 10_14_26 AM.png

                                    It toggles back and forth as expected.

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                                    • BoxB Offline
                                      Box
                                      last edited by

                                      Is this what you want? Sorry I did ctrl e rather than your preferred ctrl shift a.


                                      By Axis.gif

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                                      • david_hD Offline
                                        david_h
                                        last edited by

                                        Dave R and Box. Sorry. DIdn't mean to sound defensive or whatever. I need to turn in my Green 'Top Sketchucator Badge" it was erroneously bestowed anyway.

                                        I will re-look at this as per your hints. actually, I am not Skupping as much as I used to so I forget a lot of things.

                                        again. . it's not keeping me up at night. . .yet

                                        But It would be nice to get this resolved.

                                        thank you so much.

                                        D

                                        If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                                        • X Offline
                                          xone
                                          last edited by

                                          Unsure if the right place to ask but I got a little issue with the new reference point stuff in Sketchup 2016.

                                          Previously whenever we reference something, the cursor / protractor will go to the point of transform ON the object I want to adjust.

                                          But now in Sketchup 2016, when I try to rotate something, I got mighty confused as the protractor appear at somewhere else, stuck behind/inside objects, parallel to the referred surface. INSTEAD of going to the point of rotation.

                                          Is there a setting or something to go back to the old way?

                                          http://i.imgur.com/deWhqAp.jpg

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                                          • Dave RD Offline
                                            Dave R
                                            last edited by

                                            In your screen shot from 2016 you have back edges turned on. Do you get the same result if you have them turned off?

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