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    • thomthomT 離線
      thomthom
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      That's a new Duh! moment for me!!

      Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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      • GaieusG 離線
        Gaieus
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        Is it? 😄

        Interesting although admittedly I also have duh moments on trivia sometimes.

        Note however that is there is a soften edge (say a diagonal) in the face, the follow me will not go completely around - not even when simply double clicking. In this case Pilou's "original" method: Double clicking then deselecting the inner (sur)face will do the job though.

        So basically it only woks with single faces. Not even with coplanar but subdivided faces.

        Gai...

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        • jgbJ 離線
          jgb
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          Another thing with Follow-Me I discovered a while back (and reported) is when you are defining a path that has curves, place the template face somewhere on a straight portion of any line segment, NOT at an endpoint. 😮

          If follow-me starts on an endpoint, the face template follows one of the subtended angles and royally screws up at the end, with an end face out of alignment. This is especially a major factor with closed loops. 👎

          However, if started on a straight section, it will end perpendicular to the last line of the path, and if the path is a closed loop, it will join properly. 👍


          jgb

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          • pilouP 離線
            pilou
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            Useful to know! 👍

            Frenchy Pilou
            Is beautiful that please without concept!
            My Little site :)

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            • broomstickB 離線
              broomstick
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              I've seen this pointed out before, but I just discovered that while orbiting with the middle mouse pressed, if you press the left button, orbit becomes pan.

              It's a useful way to orbit/pan without using two hands 😄

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              • pilouP 離線
                pilou
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                Mini Doh 😳 (due forgotten function) 😒

                • Alt gives you the possibility to Move a segment escaping at the X Y plan 😉

                Frenchy Pilou
                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                My Little site :)

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                • thomthomT 離線
                  thomthom
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                  @broomstick said:

                  I've seen this pointed out before, but I just discovered that while orbiting with the middle mouse pressed, if you press the left button, orbit becomes pan.

                  !!! 😲 OMF-DUH!!!

                  Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                  • thomthomT 離線
                    thomthom
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                    A bit awkward though, as I use my index finger usually to press the middle mouse button, so I need to shift to my middle finger to free up my index for the left mouse button. ...which it was the right button that did that...

                    Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                    • GaieusG 離線
                      Gaieus
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                      @thomthom said:

                      A bit awkward though, as I use my index finger usually to press the middle mouse button, so I need to shift to my middle finger to free up my index for the left mouse button. ...which it was the right button that did that...

                      Ditto. I have known this "feature" but could never adapt myself to it.

                      Gai...

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                      • pilouP 離線
                        pilou
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                        @unknownuser said:

                        I use my index finger usually to press the middle mouse button

                        That is very curious, because with the medium you can rotate many more the Mouse wheel than with index! 😲
                        So more speedy scolling! 😎
                        For the simple reason that the Medium is biggest than the index! ☀
                        So the medium is always on the whell, so click it is a formality! 😄
                        Try it! 😉

                        Frenchy Pilou
                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                        My Little site :)

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                        • jgbJ 離線
                          jgb
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                          @unknownuser said:

                          @unknownuser said:

                          I use my index finger usually to press the middle mouse button

                          That is very curious, because with the medium you can rotate many more the Mouse wheel than with index! 😲
                          So more speedy scolling! 😎
                          For the simple reason that the Medium is biggest than the index! ☀
                          So the medium is always on the whell, so click it is a formality! 😄
                          Try it! 😉

                          I have always used my mid finger on the wheel, with index on the left button. I also move my mid to the right button when needed as the ring finger has less control (which is why it is the "ring" finger 😆 ).

                          It shouldn't take long to adjust to that finger position.

                          And now I know why my "orbiting" suddenly goes into "panning" when my index finger twitches downward sometimes. Now that I know, I can exploit that feature. Thank you Broomstick.

                          And Pilou, I fail to see what you mean with Move+Alt. ❓ Could you please explain a bit more?


                          jgb

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                          • Jean LemireJ 離線
                            Jean Lemire
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                            Hi Pilou, hi folks.

                            Yes, pressing the ALT key enables Autofold.

                            Just ideas.

                            Jean (Johnny) Lemire from Repentigny, Quebec, Canada.

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                            • pilouP 離線
                              pilou
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                              Is that more clear ? 😳
                              Without Alt Z axis is locked!
                              You can make some prisms or no coplanar faces with Move + Alt! 😉
                              The Z axis become free with Move + Alt 😄

                              Movetool.jpg

                              Frenchy Pilou
                              Is beautiful that please without concept!
                              My Little site :)

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                              • GaieusG 離線
                                Gaieus
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                                And here is the autofold description:
                                http://support.google.com/sketchup/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=94865

                                Gai...

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                                • thomthomT 離線
                                  thomthom
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                                  I wish there was an option to make SketchUp Smooth+Soft auto-folded edges.

                                  Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                                  • jeff hammondJ 離線
                                    jeff hammond
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                                    I've been harping on this for years now but I don't think anyone ever tries it.. oh well

                                    orbit with a thumb button (if your mouse has one).. not only is it more comfortable, it also gets rid of the double duty zoom/orbit mmb... AND- makes panning with the LMB much easier.

                                    dotdotdot

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                                    • thomthomT 離線
                                      thomthom
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                                      Thumb buttons are Copy, Paste ...

                                      Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                      • jgbJ 離線
                                        jgb
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                                        @gaieus said:

                                        And here is the autofold description:
                                        http://support.google.com/sketchup/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=94865

                                        Read it, tried it and I still don't see any advantage. 😒

                                        If I want to go Z (blue) I press the UP arrow and it seems to do the same as the autofold, but with exact axis control. 👍

                                        It seems to me that autofold may hold an advantage if we had true 3D screens, but mine is standard 2D, and I cannot control, with any precision, where my object is moving to.


                                        jgb

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                                        • jeff hammondJ 離線
                                          jeff hammond
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                                          @jgb said:

                                          @gaieus said:

                                          And here is the autofold description:
                                          http://support.google.com/sketchup/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=94865

                                          Read it, tried it and I still don't see any advantage. 😒

                                          If I want to go Z (blue) I press the UP arrow and it seems to do the same as the autofold, but with exact axis control. 👍

                                          It seems to me that autofold may hold an advantage if we had true 3D screens, but mine is standard 2D, and I cannot control, with any precision, where my object is moving to.

                                          using the arrow key is the same thing.. you're giving sketchup permission to break a plane(s) into multiple planes.. that's what autofolding means (in sketchup speak).. [and moving along the Z isn't always what's wanted.. hence the cmmd/alt key]

                                          now if only follow-me had an autofold option.. we'd then be able to, say, extrude around a helix without the twisting.. (notice if you try that now, sketchup prefers to keep planes in tact as opposed to folding them which is required for a non-twisting extrusion)

                                          dotdotdot

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                                          • TIGT 離線
                                            TIG Moderator
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                                            That's where FollowMeAndKeep steps in... No twisting !
                                            Also 'EEbyLathe' sorts the FollowMe around and Arc issues too...

                                            TIG

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