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      aiden
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      When I draw a line on even a very simple surface, Tools on surface takes an enormous amount of time to complete the task. I'm running on a very powerful workstation with lots of ram, and the last test I ran had only two faces. Any idea what causes this behavior?

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      • Dave RD Offline
        Dave R
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        @aiden said:

        I'm running on a very powerful workstation with lots of ram ...

        Still SketchUp 2018? What graphics card? Can you share you simple model?

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          aiden
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          @dave r said:

          @aiden said:

          I'm running on a very powerful workstation with lots of ram ...

          Still SketchUp 2018? What graphics card? Can you share you simple model?

          Hi Dave - thanks for your response - Here's more specific info:

          Sketchup Pro 2021, 21.1.299 (classic perpetual license)
          Intel Core i9 10900K, 3.7GHz, 64GB ram,
          Windows 10 Pro. RTX 3090, (528.02 driver)

          LibFredo6 13.9a, Tools on Surface 2.5a. Fresh install.

          The plugin works fine on my workstation in a model with very little geometry.

          It also works fine on the somewhat less powerful workstation of my coworker,
          who is working on an identical copy of the file I am working on. (???)
          He is using a slightly older copy of Sketchup Pro 21.0.391. (Subscription plan)

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          • Dave RD Offline
            Dave R
            last edited by

            @aiden said:

            Here's more specific info:

            Sketchup Pro 2021, 21.1.299 (classic perpetual license)
            Intel Core i9 10900K, 3.7GHz, 64GB ram,
            Windows 10 Pro. RTX 3090, (528.02 driver)

            Please update your profile.

            What graphics card?

            @aiden said:

            The plugin works fine on my workstation in a model with very little geometry.

            It also works fine on the somewhat less powerful workstation of my coworker,
            who is working on an identical copy of the file I am working on. (???)
            He is using a slightly older copy of Sketchup Pro 21.0.391. (Subscription plan)

            That leads me to the graphics card. What graphics card does your coworker's computer have?

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              aiden
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              My Coworker is using 2 GTX 1080 cards, running on driver version 528.49

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                aiden
                last edited by

                @aiden said:

                My Coworker is using 2 GTX 1080 cards, running on driver version 528.49

                I am now downloading the latest drivers. Will let you know if it helps.

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                • Dave RD Offline
                  Dave R
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                  @aiden said:

                  My Coworker is using 2 GTX 1080 cards, running on driver version 528.49

                  A solid graphics card with good OpenGL support. The Nvidia GeForce and GTX-series graphics cards have always been recommended for SketchUp. Integrated GPUs such as the ones you are using have never been recommended because they historically have poor OpenGL support and because they are using CPU RAM instead of dedicated RAM for graphics processing.Based on the GPUs your coworker's computer would be a better choice for SketchUp.

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                    aiden
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                    @dave r said:

                    @aiden said:

                    My Coworker is using 2 GTX 1080 cards, running on driver version 528.49

                    A solid graphics card with good OpenGL support. The Nvidia GeForce and GTX-series graphics cards have always been recommended for SketchUp. Integrated GPUs such as the ones you are using have never been recommended because they historically have poor OpenGL support and because they are using CPU RAM instead of dedicated RAM for graphics processing.Based on the GPUs your coworker's computer would be a better choice for SketchUp.

                    Just a note - if by "integrated GPU" you mean an on-board GPU, my RTX card is a dedicated separate unit like my coworker's GPU, using a PCI Express slot on the motherboard. The RTX 3090 is a fairly powerful unit with 24GB dedicated ram.
                    Did I rightly understand what you meant by "Integrated GPU"?

                    Second note - updated to newest driver (Studio) and still have very poor performance - but in fairness to Tools On Surface - my performance is slower in every aspect than my coworker's machine.

                    Perhaps the RTX cards have an issue here? I appreciate your time looking into this with me Dave.

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                    • panixiaP Offline
                      panixia
                      last edited by panixia

                      @dave r said:

                      @aiden said:

                      Integrated GPUs such as the ones you are using have never been recommended because they historically have poor OpenGL support and because they are using CPU RAM instead of dedicated RAM for graphics processing.Based on the GPUs your coworker's computer would be a better choice for SketchUp.

                      By no means Nvidia rtx3090 is an integrated gpu.
                      It's an high-end discrete gpu and it's actually waaaay more modern and powerful than the 1080.

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                      • panixiaP Offline
                        panixia
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                        @aiden said:

                        Perhaps the RTX cards have an issue here?

                        I would suggest to check into the Nvidia control panel (you can find in the context menu if you right click on an empty space in your Windows desktop bakcground), go to application specific settings, scroll the drop down menu to select Sketchup 2021 and make sure that's using the 3090 and NOT the integrated gpu.

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                        • Dave RD Offline
                          Dave R
                          last edited by

                          @aiden said:

                          Just a note - if by "integrated GPU" you mean an on-board GPU, my RTX card...

                          Sorry. I missed your RTX card and I was working with someone else at the same time who has an integrated GPU.

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                            aiden
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                            @panixia said:

                            @aiden said:

                            Perhaps the RTX cards have an issue here?

                            I would suggest to check into the Nvidia control panel (you can find in the context menu if you right click on an empty space in your Windows desktop bakcground), go to application specific settings, scroll the drop down menu to select Sketchup 2021 and make sure that's using the 3090 and NOT the integrated gpu.

                            Thanks - I checked and it is set to use the RTX card. Really baffling.
                            My 3090 does great with other applications that are 3D intensive.

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                              aiden
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                              @dave r said:

                              @aiden said:

                              Just a note - if by "integrated GPU" you mean an on-board GPU, my RTX card...

                              Sorry. I missed your RTX card and I was working with someone else at the same time who has an integrated GPU.

                              Of course - no problem. I appreciate the time you've spent helping. Wish it could have been an easy fix. Its weird to have so much horsepower but be limping along as if I were using an i3 from five years ago. I reinstalled Sketchup. Downloaded an even more up-to-date driver(game ready this time). Also disabled all plugins - and still no better. So strange. Meanwhile my coworker is flying along on the old 1080 GTX workstation.

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                              • panixiaP Offline
                                panixia
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                                @aiden said:

                                it is set to use the RTX card

                                So we can exclude problems with GPU or model (because you say the same exact model works ok on a different machine).
                                Next troubleshooting steps:
                                I would check if it can be related the specific Sketchup version, because your coworker uses a slighty older one and works ok, and I myself use 2021.1.332 and works really fast with TOS.
                                Are you sure you are running the latest possible version of libfredo6?
                                If you try to use TOS with the ruby console opened, it gives you some error message?
                                Can you confirm that this problem only occours whith TOS? Or maybe it's present in other plugins?
                                Can you try to disable all the others plugins and use only TOS to see if there's some plugin "conflict" going on?

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                                  magedalex Newcomers
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                                  Is there any free alternative to Tools On Surface

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                                  • Dave RD Offline
                                    Dave R
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                                    @magedalex said:

                                    Is there any free alternative to Tools On Surface

                                    You can draw planar shapes and extrude them through your curved surface. Then use Intersect faces.

                                    Please correct your forum profile. There is no SketchUp 2018 Make version. That information helps us help you if it is correct.

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                                      sabex Newcomers
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                                      hello. Any help in this situation?


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                                      • Rich O BrienR Online
                                        Rich O Brien Moderator
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                                        @sabex said:

                                        hello. Any help in this situation?

                                        Does it repeat after you restart SketchUp? Its normal to get this the first time you install because Fredo's extensions are complex and restarting SketchUp is needed to finalize it.

                                        Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp 📖

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                                        • TIGT Offline
                                          TIG Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          You also need the latest version of LibFredo installing...
                                          Also, because this is licensed, you need the newest version of SketchUcation tools for this...
                                          After installation you must restart SketchUp to sync everything...

                                          TIG

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                                            fredo6
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                                            NEW RELEASE: Tools on Surface 2.6a- 01 Apr 24

                                            Requirements

                                            • LibFredo6: v14.3b
                                            • Sketchucation PluginStore: v4.4.0
                                            • Sketchup version: SU2017 and above

                                            This maintenance release is for future compatibility


                                            Please see main post for discussion

                                            See Plugin download page for download

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