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    Joint Push Pull Classic (Old version) - v2.2a - 26 Apr 17

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    • mitcorbM Offline
      mitcorb
      last edited by

      Could it be that the faces were pulled internally because of the direction of your pull and the inference engine trying to snap to a vertex? I don't know, just asking.

      I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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      • dereiD Offline
        derei
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        @mitcorb said:

        Could it be that the faces were pulled internally because of the direction of your pull and the inference engine trying to snap to a vertex? I don't know, just asking.

        I'm not sure what you are asking...but if is what I think it is, it should be valid only for small distances and only for mouse movement. Or, I moved the mouse to avoid snapping and I input a value in VCB.

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        • fredo6F Offline
          fredo6
          last edited by

          @unknownuser said:

          Is it JPP polygon-limited ?
          I have a curved face and I wanted to add thickness to it. Unfortunately, JPP only affected a part of entire mesh.
          See below.

          JPP has a limit for displaying the feedback wireframe (5000 faces) but I don'th think I put one for the processing.
          I'll check that and come back.

          Fredo

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          • Rich O BrienR Online
            Rich O Brien Moderator
            last edited by

            Hi Fredo,

            I've Joint PushPull assigned to 'J' shortcut. When I select all geometry and press 'G' to 'Make Component' then 'Set component axis' if I press 'J' during the placing of the axis SU will Bugsplat.

            It doesn't do this for any other keyboard assigned plugin.
            It doesn't do it if nothing is assigned to 'J'.
            It doesn't do it if a native tool is assigned to 'J'.
            It doesn't do it if another plugin is assigned to 'J'.

            There are no messages in the Ruby Console. I'm using all the latest version of your plugins.

            I know that not pressing 'J' solves it

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            • H Offline
              helios
              last edited by

              After a few days, I'm still struggling to give one of my hollow models some thickness.

              I created a model that looks sort of like this (i.e. a curve spun around the Z axis):

              http://i.imgur.com/u1fl6.jpg

              I then select everything, click Joint Push/Pull, and enter a distance that is my desired thickness (e.g. 10mm). Some sort of calculation happens, but when I check on the model's thickness, it appears unchanged:

              http://i.imgur.com/hEeEs.jpg

              What am I doing wrong? How can I get the walls to be thicker?

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              • H Offline
                helios
                last edited by

                Here's the model in question itself (attached).


                Bell 6.skp.zip

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                • Dave RD Offline
                  Dave R
                  last edited by

                  It worked for me although I probably added the thickness in the wrong direction.

                  After you select the JPP tool, hit TAB and make sure you've selected "Thickening". If you have "Erase Original Faces" selected, the original faces will get erased and you won't get the thickness. Another thing I did was split the operation into several smaller ones by selecting sections of the shape. I started at the bottom and selected just the surface below the belt and ran JPP on it. Then I worked my way up from there.


                  Bell 6.skp

                  Etaoin Shrdlu

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                  G28 X0.0 Y0.0 Z0.0

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                  • mitcorbM Offline
                    mitcorb
                    last edited by

                    I would have guessed that faces need reversing, and overall size of the object would need scaling to produce the effect, but this may not apply here.

                    I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                    • Dave RD Offline
                      Dave R
                      last edited by

                      You're right. the faces were all reversed but that and the size of the thing didn't affect the operation in this case.

                      Helios, I did forget to mention the face orientation thing and that you ought not to work so far from the origin.

                      I updated the file to put the thickening on the inside so the little detail at the top shows correctly. The model could stand a bunch of cleanup but I'll leave that to you.


                      Bell 6.skp

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                      • H Offline
                        helios
                        last edited by

                        Wow, you guys are awesome. Thank you so much -- this is way beyond what I expected for help!

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                        • G Offline
                          Gardentwine
                          last edited by

                          hi This is great script and use it often in creating stuff for my Hammer editor(source), the only thing it takes a while cause i have to do each face separately, is there or is it posible for this script to allow me to select more than one face and then group each face separately and still get the same results, (not sure if this would cause overlaping solids)

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                          • fredo6F Offline
                            fredo6
                            last edited by

                            @gardentwine said:

                            hi This is great script and use it often in creating stuff for my Hammer editor(source), the only thing it takes a while cause i have to do each face separately, is there or is it posible for this script to allow me to select more than one face and then group each face separately and still get the same results, (not sure if this would cause overlaping solids)

                            JPP precisely works on group of faces (just select them and activate the script).
                            Unless I miss something.... ❓

                            Fredo

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                              ultrapom_79
                              last edited by

                              thank you very much!

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                              • F Offline
                                fatcap
                                last edited by

                                Thank you so much Fredo! ☀ ☀

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                                • john2J Offline
                                  john2
                                  last edited by

                                  im trying to push down a curved surface but can't get the desired effect , my shape get slivered on the edges. and i have to delete lots of curved faces one by one. how should i decrease the thickness of solid the way a normal flat solid would work?

                                  http://i.imgur.com/uhWnb.jpg


                                  pushpull sample.skp

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                                  • Dave RD Offline
                                    Dave R
                                    last edited by

                                    Joint Push/Pull is working normally. It just pushes all the faces in the direction of their normals which will leave those faces.

                                    For something like your example I would either draw a curved face where you want the new surface to be, intersect it with the existing geometry and then erase what I don't want or I would draw a 3D shape and use the Solid tools to subtract the stuff I don't want.

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                                    • john2J Offline
                                      john2
                                      last edited by

                                      @dave r said:

                                      Joint Push/Pull is working normally. It just pushes all the faces in the direction of their normals which will leave those faces.

                                      For something like your example I would either draw a curved face where you want the new surface to be, intersect it with the existing geometry and then erase what I don't want or I would draw a 3D shape and use the Solid tools to subtract the stuff I don't want.

                                      solid tools and booltools often don't work since we have little hole in our geometry. so they don't get qualified as a solid. 😒 Intersecting faces is an untidy and a bit long way. 😞

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                                      • Dave RD Offline
                                        Dave R
                                        last edited by

                                        Sloppy work results in harder work. Don't work harder than you need to.

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                                        • B Offline
                                          bouleaux
                                          last edited by

                                          Hello,
                                          I'm trying to extrude a multitude of faces with the same kind of behavior than the jointpushpull plugin. My concern is that I need as many solids than faces as a result.
                                          If I jointpushpull 5 adjacent faces, they will end in a single extruded group. What I would like is having 5 adjacent solids as a result.

                                          The ky Group PushPull 2D Faces plugin does that very well... it found out to be the best solution for me make in making that sketchyphysics video : http://youtu.be/v9jWE1aoueA

                                          BUT for this video the faces were all parallel. What I didn't find yet is a way to obtain the same result (multiple adjacent solids) when the faces are NOT parallel. The ky Group PushPull 2D Faces plugin actually does it, but the groups all interpenetrate, which does not end with solids, which is not ok with sketchyphysics...

                                          My point is I would like to extrude this wonderful head model by 3D creator (http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=d34e5f52b8698e0e72879169b6bea9fb&prevstart=0) into multiple solids, then use it in sketchyphysics (if my iMac accepts to deal with sio many entities...)

                                          Any idea ?
                                          Many thanks

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                                          • fredo6F Offline
                                            fredo6
                                            last edited by

                                            @bouleaux

                                            Did you use the options (press TAB to have the dialog box appear)

                                            • Keep Original Face
                                            • Borders on all faces

                                            Fred

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