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    Tim Danaher
    last edited by 19 Feb 2008, 11:28

    Hmm -- anyone done this?

    I may have a job as part of a team building a physical model of the Burj-al-Arab for display in a company's lobby.

    We were discussing using SU to model the thing floor-by-floor, and using a computer-controlled lathe to machine each floor out of MDF, or suchlike, then adding detail by hand.

    Has anyone used this approach? I think we'd need .stl files to feed to a CAM lathe/router, but SU doesn't support this format. We'd have to output it to another program that does, like Cheetah.

    Anyone gone down this route, got any tips/advice, etc?

    Cheers,

    Tim

    http://vizarch.blogspot.com

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      jasonh1234
      last edited by 19 Feb 2008, 11:36

      @tim danaher said:

      Anyone gone down this route, got any tips/advice, etc?

      I've visited a physical model shop before and observed the process they used. They were working from paper drawings, recreating elements in AutoCAD, then feeding the file to a laser cutter which did most of the work.

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        Tim Danaher
        last edited by 19 Feb 2008, 11:43

        Which is the process I've already outlined above -- sorry if I wasn't clear enough. I need to get some tips on file formats & transfer. I don't want to have to do the modelling in AutoCAD.

        Cheers,

        Tim

        http://vizarch.blogspot.com

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          Charlie__V
          last edited by 19 Feb 2008, 18:42

          Tim,
          I have looked in to 3d printing,(Zcorp) possibly an option for you depending on the size/complexity.Company software accepts .skp
          http://www.zcorp.com/Products/3D-Printers/spage.aspx

          Or There is a Ruby here by Didier Bur, I have not tried it.
          EDIT: look for.......SU2STL
          http://www.crai.archi.fr/RubyLibraryDepot/Ruby/em_fil_page.htm

          Charlie

          Precision M1710/Win 7 Pro 64 bit/i-7 6920 Quad core 2.9 Ghz -3.8/16Gb ram/NVIDIA M5000M 8Gb

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            Tim Danaher
            last edited by 19 Feb 2008, 18:52

            Thanks, Charlie. Stl export ruby could be promising...

            We'd considered 3D printing...but I've tried 3D printing in the past...hmmm...


            TurmModellSmall.jpg

            Cheers,

            Tim

            http://vizarch.blogspot.com

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              Stephen
              last edited by 19 Feb 2008, 21:44

              Hello. I don't know if this will answer your question, but Datacad 12 ( an architectural cad program) will allow you to open skup files in datacad and export to STL format. I think v 11 will do this as well but v12 is supposed to have become more friendly with skup.
              Hope this helps

              Here's a link to the Datacad forum, I'm sure someone there can answer any questions you may have.
              http://forum.datacad.com/

              Stephen

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                Charlie__V
                last edited by 19 Feb 2008, 22:03

                @tim danaher said:

                Thanks, Charlie. Stl export ruby could be promising...

                We'd considered 3D printing...but I've tried 3D printing in the past...hmmm...

                Tim.....I understand....sorry to see your results were......ummm..that's not the Burj I hope. :~)
                Guess the 3d printing is still in it's infancy (considering cost/quality).
                However, I'm sure it will really wow us at some time in the near future.

                Charlie

                Precision M1710/Win 7 Pro 64 bit/i-7 6920 Quad core 2.9 Ghz -3.8/16Gb ram/NVIDIA M5000M 8Gb

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                  bcoleman001
                  last edited by 20 Feb 2008, 16:19

                  @tim danaher said:

                  I don't want to have to do the modelling in AutoCAD.

                  Why not just model in SU then export the model into AutoCAD. Then in AutoCAD export the .stl file?

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                    Tim Danaher
                    last edited by 20 Feb 2008, 17:11

                    Because I don't have AutoCAD?

                    Cheers,

                    Tim

                    http://vizarch.blogspot.com

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                      alpro
                      last edited by 20 Feb 2008, 17:37

                      Tim, check out this post http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=6603
                      solo mentions Deep Exploration, it's a bit spendy but they do offer a 30 day demo. I just downloaded it myself and it looks like you can import skp and export stl.

                      Mike

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                        Tim Danaher
                        last edited by 20 Feb 2008, 17:57

                        Thanks, Alpro, but if you re-read my original post, you'll see I already have a program that will do this...Cheetah3D .

                        I just wanted to know if other people have done this two-stage export process, if there are any pitfalls, or if there was a more direct method -- like didier's stl export ruby. Sorry, I should have been clearer in my OP.

                        Cheers,

                        Tim

                        http://vizarch.blogspot.com

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                          alexander
                          last edited by 20 Feb 2008, 20:56

                          I don't know exactly, but you mentioned cutting out MDF board.
                          why not export a dxf and import the dxf in your cnc cad program ?

                          Or maybe if the building is solid, use the ruby slicer, so you've got
                          the building in thin piece's and export these with ADO ? and import these in the cnc-programming software.

                          what kind of cnc-machine are you talking about (how many axes ?)

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