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    • L Offline
      L i am
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      Ask away mate, bottom line is as much as I am a big fan or urban greening in general for so many ecological reasons. I think in practice they are a nightmare on so many levels, Having a lot of experience i this field as a systems designer I do not thing the are practical. and one hole in that waterproof membrane either vertically as in green walls or horizontally as in green roofs Green roofs being the lesser evil of the two.
      In reality we all know as normal building age buildings age things go wrong and damp is a big problem

      I do not believe the hype any more. Look up french green wall designer Patrick Blanc I believe he is the leader in this field

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      • HornOxxH Offline
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        πŸ˜‚ I love your funny and true saying "the lesser evil of the two" !

        (by the way, do these smiley emojis here only look so silly only to me or to everyone?)

        never trust a skinny cook

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          @HornOxx πŸ‘ 😊 😊
          This is one work by PatrickGreen wal patric.png

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          • L Offline
            L i am
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            The cost of this would be about (In Australian Dollars)
            Installation: $1,000 – $2,500 per mΒ²

            At ~5 stories, say the wall is 15 m wide x 20 m high = 300 mΒ²

            That’s $300,000 – $750,000 AUD installation cost.

            Ongoing maintenance: $100 – $200 per mΒ² per year

            Around $30,000 – $60,000 AUD annually for upkeep.

            Lighting & irrigation system: included in the above, but can add $50k – $100k upfront depending on complexity.

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              HornOxx @L i am
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              @L-i-am said in WIP / Visualisation of a Green Wall Facade System.:

              @HornOxx πŸ‘ 😊 😊
              This is one work by PatrickGreen wal patric.png

              Wow !!! I recognize the picture without knowing who created it.
              And what a great piece of work by himβ€”not just green for its own green sake, but truly artistic.

              never trust a skinny cook

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              • L Offline
                L i am
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                Agreed beautiful study of how nature colonises species

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                • Mike AmosM Offline
                  Mike Amos
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                  Agreed, my one problem would be complaints and potential suits from folk who have their windows obscured from daylight. Perhaps cut down on the foliage quantity a bit.

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                  • L Offline
                    L i am
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                    Like I said mate it is so expensive to build and maintain

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                    • Mike AmosM Offline
                      Mike Amos
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                      I can definitely see that this sort of thing is NEEDED, for water recycling purposes if nothing else. I saw a project in Manhattan where the planting from top to bottom of a tower block was used to reclaim brown water produced by residents. Lots of room for projects like this to manage hotter climates without massive energy drain.
                      We can do this if the will (Power) is there.

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                        HornOxx @Mike Amos
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                        Hi
                        Somehow, this topic (related to SketchUp, of course) also seems to fit here for me and at least, I hope so β€” so I'll take a look at it tonight.
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                        • Mike AmosM Offline
                          Mike Amos @HornOxx
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                          @HornOxx

                          This topic has reminded me of a series of programs about what would happen if humans vanished overnight and on into the future. How things would deteriorate over time.
                          The USS Texas and other battleship museums, the high rise buildings around the world.
                          What would happen to these structures without maintenance over protracted periods.
                          Quite an eye opener. Not trying to put a dampener on the topic btw, just pointing out in the earlier post that folk like their windows to let light in an I love the whole idea but a little restraint might be more realistic.

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                          • HornOxxH Offline
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                            Mike Amos, I think I saw that very same television report, and it was full of so impressive images!

                            No, I understand exactly what you're saying, and you're not "dampening" (does this word exist in English?) the topic at all. A specialist seminar at the beginning of this year, which I assumed would put this topic on a holy throne, dealt with it in a very critical and reflective manner.
                            I myself also doubt that greening facades is the key to a better urban climate and consider it more of a niche solution that is only appropriate in certain places.
                            I live in Frankfurt and have observed the efforts being made there to remove sealing materials from large squares and even streets and replace them with green spaces and tree plantings. Even then, I often thought beforehand, β€˜What's this going to be like?’ but it actually got better. All in all, I think that a lot of trial and error is going on at the moment – which is better than not trying anything at all. Even if something goes wrong, you have gained knowledge and experience.

                            I am very pleased about all these contributions and comments – especially since this topic started with an amateurish attempt to model and visualise a green wall system in SketchUp πŸ˜‰

                            never trust a skinny cook

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                            • Mike AmosM Offline
                              Mike Amos @HornOxx
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                              @HornOxx

                              Mate, blown away by the system you came up with, if that is amateur fashion, the next step is going to blow everyone away.

                              More please.

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                              • L Offline
                                L i am
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                                Dampening is OK but Damping down may work better

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                                  HornOxx @Mike Amos
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                                  @Mike-Amos said in WIP / Visualisation of a Green Wall Facade System.:

                                  @HornOxx
                                  ... More please.

                                  Thanks and please be patient Mike-Amos 😊
                                  I already have another example (based on this work) up my sleeve πŸŽ„ I will of course post it here in roughly 9 weeks 😜

                                  never trust a skinny cook

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                                    majid @L i am
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                                    @L-i-am Agreed + if (Hidden Co2 is calculated), not sustainable at all.

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                                    • Mike AmosM Offline
                                      Mike Amos
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                                      Foliage like this will reduce the temperature of the homes it is attached to so that alone makes it worthwhile.. Any water savings from recycling brown water will be a bonus.

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