WIP / Visualisation of a Green Wall Facade System.
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Again nice work mate. I love the idea of green walls and your systems seem to a watering system with climbing plants which is s good option. I have a good knowledge of green wall systems. the downside (not particularity your type of system. But other systems are incredibly expensive to make and to maintain. And often the interior green wall systems use interior grow lamps.....hardly environmentally friendly and ironic The other thing is if they fail the can fail catastrophically. This is just a conversation about green walls in general and not a comment on your work. If a company wants a green wall system, as much as I like them I would say if you have the money to have 2 Horticulturalist/ gardener/ technician, and a high rise rigging certification and you can afford about 60 man hours a week every week then go ahead
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Thank you L i am for your input on this topic!
As you can imagine, I'm not exactly an expert on this subject myself although I now attend seminars on the subject.
I was simply trying to find a practical way to present this particular system based on SkUp somehow.
In fact, I am now aware and also realize that the system shown here is very limited due to its nature - in terms of the planting method and the associated greening/shading ratio and, ultimately, also in terms of statics.
Since I am of course very interested in the topic, I welcome your and everyone else's input on the green wall topic here. Both in terms of real systems and experiences, as well as your implementation approaches within SkUp.Best!
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Ask away mate, bottom line is as much as I am a big fan or urban greening in general for so many ecological reasons. I think in practice they are a nightmare on so many levels, Having a lot of experience i this field as a systems designer I do not thing the are practical. and one hole in that waterproof membrane either vertically as in green walls or horizontally as in green roofs Green roofs being the lesser evil of the two.
In reality we all know as normal building age buildings age things go wrong and damp is a big problemI do not believe the hype any more. Look up french green wall designer Patrick Blanc I believe he is the leader in this field
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I love your funny and true saying "the lesser evil of the two" !(by the way, do these smiley emojis here only look so silly only to me or to everyone?)
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@HornOxx
This is one work by Patrick
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The cost of this would be about (In Australian Dollars)
Installation: $1,000 – $2,500 per m²At ~5 stories, say the wall is 15 m wide x 20 m high = 300 m²
That’s $300,000 – $750,000 AUD installation cost.
Ongoing maintenance: $100 – $200 per m² per year
Around $30,000 – $60,000 AUD annually for upkeep.
Lighting & irrigation system: included in the above, but can add $50k – $100k upfront depending on complexity.
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@L-i-am said in WIP / Visualisation of a Green Wall Facade System.:
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This is one work by PatrickWow !!! I recognize the picture without knowing who created it.
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Agreed beautiful study of how nature colonises species
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Agreed, my one problem would be complaints and potential suits from folk who have their windows obscured from daylight. Perhaps cut down on the foliage quantity a bit.
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Like I said mate it is so expensive to build and maintain
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I can definitely see that this sort of thing is NEEDED, for water recycling purposes if nothing else. I saw a project in Manhattan where the planting from top to bottom of a tower block was used to reclaim brown water produced by residents. Lots of room for projects like this to manage hotter climates without massive energy drain.
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Somehow, this topic (related to SketchUp, of course) also seems to fit here for me and at least, I hope so — so I'll take a look at it tonight.
Push/Pulling the Trudo Vertical Forest, LIVE!
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This topic has reminded me of a series of programs about what would happen if humans vanished overnight and on into the future. How things would deteriorate over time.
The USS Texas and other battleship museums, the high rise buildings around the world.
What would happen to these structures without maintenance over protracted periods.
Quite an eye opener. Not trying to put a dampener on the topic btw, just pointing out in the earlier post that folk like their windows to let light in an I love the whole idea but a little restraint might be more realistic. -
Mike Amos, I think I saw that very same television report, and it was full of so impressive images!
No, I understand exactly what you're saying, and you're not "dampening" (does this word exist in English?) the topic at all. A specialist seminar at the beginning of this year, which I assumed would put this topic on a holy throne, dealt with it in a very critical and reflective manner.
I myself also doubt that greening facades is the key to a better urban climate and consider it more of a niche solution that is only appropriate in certain places.
I live in Frankfurt and have observed the efforts being made there to remove sealing materials from large squares and even streets and replace them with green spaces and tree plantings. Even then, I often thought beforehand, ‘What's this going to be like?’ but it actually got better. All in all, I think that a lot of trial and error is going on at the moment – which is better than not trying anything at all. Even if something goes wrong, you have gained knowledge and experience.I am very pleased about all these contributions and comments – especially since this topic started with an amateurish attempt to model and visualise a green wall system in SketchUp
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Mate, blown away by the system you came up with, if that is amateur fashion, the next step is going to blow everyone away.
More please.
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Dampening is OK but Damping down may work better
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@Mike-Amos said in WIP / Visualisation of a Green Wall Facade System.:
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... More please.Thanks and please be patient Mike-Amos
I already have another example (based on this work) up my sleeve
I will of course post it here in roughly 9 weeks 
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@L-i-am Agreed + if (Hidden Co2 is calculated), not sustainable at all.
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Foliage like this will reduce the temperature of the homes it is attached to so that alone makes it worthwhile.. Any water savings from recycling brown water will be a bonus.
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