sketchucation logo sketchucation
    • Login
    ⚠️ Attention | Having issues with Sketchucation Tools 5? Report Here

    WIP / Visualisation of a Green Wall Facade System.

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Gallery
    21 Posts 6 Posters 683 Views 6 Watching
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • HornOxxH Offline
      HornOxx
      last edited by

      Hi
      This Green-Wall-system is based on facade anchors and wires stretched between them. Somehow quite similar to any real actual planting method later on this model-visu approach results in a vegetation system that inevitably has to be achieved by using a linear helix-spline-curve based generation method rather than any surface filling method.
      I first tried to use 3D plant models, but they were unsuitable due to the sheer amount of geometry. Instead, I used about 5 small fast and sloppy done test-PNG images to imitate the plants.

      [SkUp2023/ Random Tools by Alex Schreyer/ Helix along Curve by 3Dalbertsoft/ Scale and Rotate Multiple by Chris Fullmer (which btw is a tool I love!)/ Enscape/ Affinity Photo2]
      (the pictures below show my initial approach, which I am very happy with so far.)
      Collage 1_small.jpg

      never trust a skinny cook

      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 5
      • Rich O BrienR Offline
        Rich O Brien Moderator
        last edited by

        Works a treat too! DOF works great to take attention from the use of image planes

        Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp 📖

        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
        • Mike AmosM Offline
          Mike Amos
          last edited by

          Looks fantastic mate.

          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 2
          • W Offline
            WilliamSArmstrong Newcomers
            last edited by

            I have great feeling about it! Thank you for sharing!

            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
            • jo-keJ Offline
              jo-ke
              last edited by

              that looks great. How could I missed that thread?

              http://www.zz7.de

              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
              • L Offline
                L i am
                last edited by L i am

                Yeh, nice work mate👍 👍 Of interest to me as I spent one year of my life designing green wall systems

                W 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                • W Offline
                  WilliamSArmstrong Newcomers @L i am
                  last edited by

                  @L-i-am said in WIP / Visualisation of a Green Wall Facade System. blocky blast:

                  Yeh, nice work mate👍 👍 Of interest to me as I spent one year of my life designing green wall systems

                  Thank you

                  HornOxxH 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                  • HornOxxH Offline
                    HornOxx @WilliamSArmstrong
                    last edited by HornOxx

                    Hi!
                    Thank you all for your nice comments, and I am glad you enjoyed this.
                    I am adding a small picture impression of the production process. In addition, I also wrote a small sloppy and imperfect ruby (rb) plugin that allows selected components to “float” within a self-defined range at random Z heights. Similar to a deck of cards thrown on the floor. To prevent the PNGs (the cards 😊 ) from interfering with each other, each PNG must have its own determined random height in cases where these cold be coplanar with any other to avoid any coplanar glitching issues...making greenwall.jpg

                    never trust a skinny cook

                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                    • L Offline
                      L i am
                      last edited by L i am

                      Again nice work mate. I love the idea of green walls and your systems seem to a watering system with climbing plants which is s good option. I have a good knowledge of green wall systems. the downside (not particularity your type of system. But other systems are incredibly expensive to make and to maintain. And often the interior green wall systems use interior grow lamps.....hardly environmentally friendly and ironic The other thing is if they fail the can fail catastrophically. This is just a conversation about green walls in general and not a comment on your work. If a company wants a green wall system, as much as I like them I would say if you have the money to have 2 Horticulturalist/ gardener/ technician, and a high rise rigging certification and you can afford about 60 man hours a week every week then go ahead

                      ![alt text](![Failed green wall rigger/withe repelling certification 5 days a week then don't do a conventional green wall system on a high rise building, don't do It is

                      Failed green wall 2.png](/assets/uploads/files/1759379726546-failed-green-wall-2.png) Failed green wall 3.png Failed green wall 1.png

                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                      • HornOxxH Offline
                        HornOxx
                        last edited by HornOxx

                        Thank you L i am for your input on this topic! 👍
                        As you can imagine, I'm not exactly an expert on this subject myself although I now attend seminars on the subject.
                        I was simply trying to find a practical way to present this particular system based on SkUp somehow.
                        In fact, I am now aware and also realize that the system shown here is very limited due to its nature - in terms of the planting method and the associated greening/shading ratio and, ultimately, also in terms of statics.
                        😉 Since I am of course very interested in the topic, I welcome your and everyone else's input on the green wall topic here. Both in terms of real systems and experiences, as well as your implementation approaches within SkUp.

                        Best!

                        never trust a skinny cook

                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • L Offline
                          L i am
                          last edited by L i am

                          Ask away mate, bottom line is as much as I am a big fan or urban greening in general for so many ecological reasons. I think in practice they are a nightmare on so many levels, Having a lot of experience i this field as a systems designer I do not thing the are practical. and one hole in that waterproof membrane either vertically as in green walls or horizontally as in green roofs Green roofs being the lesser evil of the two.
                          In reality we all know as normal building age buildings age things go wrong and damp is a big problem

                          I do not believe the hype any more. Look up french green wall designer Patrick Blanc I believe he is the leader in this field

                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                          • HornOxxH Offline
                            HornOxx
                            last edited by HornOxx

                            😂 I love your funny and true saying "the lesser evil of the two" !

                            (by the way, do these smiley emojis here only look so silly only to me or to everyone?)

                            never trust a skinny cook

                            L 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • L Offline
                              L i am @HornOxx
                              last edited by L i am

                              @HornOxx 👍 😊 😊
                              This is one work by PatrickGreen wal patric.png

                              HornOxxH 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • L Offline
                                L i am
                                last edited by

                                The cost of this would be about (In Australian Dollars)
                                Installation: $1,000 – $2,500 per m²

                                At ~5 stories, say the wall is 15 m wide x 20 m high = 300 m²

                                That’s $300,000 – $750,000 AUD installation cost.

                                Ongoing maintenance: $100 – $200 per m² per year

                                Around $30,000 – $60,000 AUD annually for upkeep.

                                Lighting & irrigation system: included in the above, but can add $50k – $100k upfront depending on complexity.

                                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                                • HornOxxH Offline
                                  HornOxx @L i am
                                  last edited by

                                  @L-i-am said in WIP / Visualisation of a Green Wall Facade System.:

                                  @HornOxx 👍 😊 😊
                                  This is one work by PatrickGreen wal patric.png

                                  Wow !!! I recognize the picture without knowing who created it.
                                  And what a great piece of work by him—not just green for its own green sake, but truly artistic.

                                  never trust a skinny cook

                                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • L Offline
                                    L i am
                                    last edited by

                                    Agreed beautiful study of how nature colonises species

                                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                                    • Mike AmosM Offline
                                      Mike Amos
                                      last edited by

                                      Agreed, my one problem would be complaints and potential suits from folk who have their windows obscured from daylight. Perhaps cut down on the foliage quantity a bit.

                                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                      • L Offline
                                        L i am
                                        last edited by

                                        Like I said mate it is so expensive to build and maintain

                                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                                        • Mike AmosM Offline
                                          Mike Amos
                                          last edited by

                                          I can definitely see that this sort of thing is NEEDED, for water recycling purposes if nothing else. I saw a project in Manhattan where the planting from top to bottom of a tower block was used to reclaim brown water produced by residents. Lots of room for projects like this to manage hotter climates without massive energy drain.
                                          We can do this if the will (Power) is there.

                                          HornOxxH 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                          • HornOxxH Offline
                                            HornOxx @Mike Amos
                                            last edited by HornOxx

                                            Hi
                                            Somehow, this topic (related to SketchUp, of course) also seems to fit here for me and at least, I hope so — so I'll take a look at it tonight.
                                            Push/Pulling the Trudo Vertical Forest, LIVE!
                                            bd677a34-f371-4d20-9060-808779fec8e8-image.png

                                            never trust a skinny cook

                                            Mike AmosM 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                            • 1
                                            • 2
                                            • 1 / 2
                                            • First post
                                              Last post
                                            Buy SketchPlus
                                            Buy SUbD
                                            Buy WrapR
                                            Buy eBook
                                            Buy Modelur
                                            Buy Vertex Tools
                                            Buy SketchCuisine
                                            Buy FormFonts

                                            Advertisement