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    • pixelcruncherP Offline
      pixelcruncher Extension Creator
      last edited by pixelcruncher

      Hey Mike,

      I have already ticked 'use gpu rendering' a while ago when the system was changed.

      I just wanted to check if the model renders correctly with the CPU and try to isolate the problem to GPU rendering.

      It does render for me using GPU rendering; the model is surprisingly polygon-heavy. I do see the same problem with the flames texture and the alpha channel:

      image.png

      I guess you are using the same flames texture in Twilight Render. I'm surprised it gives such a nice result because this flame texture doesn't have a clean alpha channel. There's a pattern in the alpha channel:

      image.png

      Does Twilight Render have a way to display thumbnails for textures? I'm intrigued at how it can render this so cleanly.

      Cheers,
      Thomas

      I'm the developer of Rayscaper: https://rayscaper.com/ - Fast and easy rendering for SketchUp.

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      • Mike AmosM Offline
        Mike Amos @pixelcruncher
        last edited by

        @pixelcruncher

        I spotted the alpha chanel stuff earlier when attemping to use that =texture for the log fire in the cold view scene. Weird.

        Transparency png are flaky tbh and I am looking to 'try' with 3d flames, I shall need a lot of paracetamol for that though.

        No idea if Twilight has any fanciness in this respect, Fletch and Chris are now gone so, relying on my daffy memory which is seive quality.

        I have notice that having a backgrounbd which has some commonality to the transparency helps. The red/scarlet works best here.

        I have attempted to recreate a scene with cutaway and limiting nayural light to that provided by the geometry, windows etc. Many splats with no report just the windows desktop.

        I shall leave this here, needs a lot of adjustemnt lighting levels wise but gives a reasonable render potential.

        The semi opaque walls, not so sure about.

        5 1000s 2174 x 1051 3m 01s GPU Irfanview.jpg

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        • Mike AmosM Offline
          Mike Amos @Mike Amos
          last edited by

          Adjustment.

          7 1000s 2174 x 1051 3m 27s GPU.png

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          • Mike AmosM Offline
            Mike Amos @Mike Amos
            last edited by

            OK, finally got the onboard graphics online, adopted the classic engine in Sketchup and rebooted. Produced an immediate error in windows which I hope is a transient.

            I think there is an improvement in this image, same view and same render time but 'feels' better. Opinions?

            8 1000s 2174 x 1051 3m 27s GPU.png

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            • Rich O BrienR Offline
              Rich O Brien Moderator @Mike Amos
              last edited by

              @Mike-Amos said in Post diagnosis.:

              Produced an immediate error in windows which I hope is a transient.

              When you mention onboard are you referring to integrated graphics in a CPU like Intel UHD? Or is this onboard the GPU?

              I'd be concerned by the 'immediate error' as that suggest conflict.

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              • Mike AmosM Offline
                Mike Amos @Rich O Brien
                last edited by

                @Rich-O-Brien

                Sorry, I do not think the graphics are the issue.

                Something about megascans when I restarted Sketchup after making the changes in BIOS.

                I am seeing a thirty second or more delay when selecting, painting a surface or importing an object which is something I have been seeing anyway. SKetchcup can take a minute or more to load to the welcom screen and then open a model even one saved to the OS drive.

                Having said that, I sometimes get a onedrive saving error "Cannot save, this file is already in use by another user", this turns out to be a one drive folder in my microsnot account. These two renders were consecutive and I have no clue. The bonus is that in true architect fashion, the second render does bring the garden "Indoors"......

                9 1000s 2174 x 1051 3m 34s GPU.png

                10 1000s 2174 x 1051 3m 34s GPU.png

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                • Mike AmosM Offline
                  Mike Amos
                  last edited by

                  BTW, onedrive was deleted after being deactivated.

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                  • Mike AmosM Offline
                    Mike Amos @Mike Amos
                    last edited by

                    Well, that vanishing trick with walls/floors has not repeated.

                    Close to the intent with this.

                    11 1000s 2174 x 1051 4m 05s GPU.png

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                    • Mike AmosM Offline
                      Mike Amos @Mike Amos
                      last edited by

                      Exterior view.

                      12 1000s 2174 x 1051 3m 14s GPU.png

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                      • tuna1957T Offline
                        tuna1957
                        last edited by

                        Interesting design. Keep after it. πŸ‘

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                        • Mike AmosM Offline
                          Mike Amos
                          last edited by

                          Ta, looking to different textures and lighting schemes.

                          The crazy cat motif is there to demonstrate a dialectic glass effect which may take experimentation. As will the interior walls set to glass.

                          13 1000s 2174 x 1051 4m 13s GPU.png

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                          • Mike AmosM Offline
                            Mike Amos @Mike Amos
                            last edited by Rich O Brien

                            Thinking some on that but digressing to automotive. I may have mentioned that I like this hotrod.

                            Just a bit closer to what I am aiming at.

                            Ford A Hotrod 9 6 10p 2174 x 1083 15m 23s.jpg

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                            • Mike AmosM Offline
                              Mike Amos
                              last edited by

                              For petrol heads, this issue has some good reading. https://porschecarshistory.com/wp-content/old/lib/magazines/RR/Rolls-Royce a Bentley Driver β€” Issue 3 2017.pdf

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                              • Rich O BrienR Offline
                                Rich O Brien Moderator
                                last edited by

                                Is this Rayscaper or Twilight?

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                                • Mike AmosM Offline
                                  Mike Amos
                                  last edited by

                                  Posted in wrong thread, sorry. Twilight.

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                                  • Mike AmosM Offline
                                    Mike Amos
                                    last edited by

                                    Actually, not the wrong thread at all, I just missed stating which render program.

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