sketchucation logo sketchucation
    • Login
    ℹ️ Licensed Extensions | FredoBatch, ElevationProfile, FredoSketch, LayOps, MatSim and Pic2Shape will require license from Sept 1st More Info

    Post diagnosis.

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved WIP
    72 Posts 5 Posters 289 Views 5 Watching
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • Mike AmosM Offline
      Mike Amos @Mike Amos
      last edited by

      Trying a Hotrod which I have rendered before in Twilight V2. Initially opening Rayscaper led to failed renders. Just va simple report, 'Failed'.

      Being a Hotrod, there will be flames. The PNG is on a seperate 'face copied from the model and painted as a component. Twilight see's the transparency fine but Rayscaper does not, when it does render.

      PNG Fail..png

      Flame Rod Test 2.jpg

      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
      • Rich O BrienR Offline
        Rich O Brien Moderator
        last edited by

        Spicy. Interesting that Rayscaper fails. Is this model very heavy in terms of file size?

        Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

        Mike AmosM 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • Mike AmosM Offline
          Mike Amos @Rich O Brien
          last edited by

          @Rich-O-Brien

          Hotrod Stats.jpg

          Not that big, nor the texture.

          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • pixelcruncherP Offline
            pixelcruncher Extension Creator
            last edited by

            @Mike-Amos do you mind sending me the model?

            I'm the developer of Rayscaper: https://rayscaper.com/ - Fast and easy rendering for SketchUp.

            Mike AmosM 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • Mike AmosM Offline
              Mike Amos @pixelcruncher
              last edited by

              @pixelcruncher

              I have sent an email with a link.

              Mike AmosM 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
              • Mike AmosM Offline
                Mike Amos @Mike Amos
                last edited by Mike Amos

                Movement?

                Twilight.

                Flame Rod Test 2 5.jpg

                Rayscaper.

                Break Dance.jpg

                Mike AmosM pixelcruncherP 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • Mike AmosM Offline
                  Mike Amos @Mike Amos
                  last edited by

                  Flame Rod Test 2 6.jpg

                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • pixelcruncherP Offline
                    pixelcruncher Extension Creator @Mike Amos
                    last edited by

                    @Mike-Amos said in Post diagnosis.:

                    Movement?

                    Twilight.

                    Flame Rod Test 2 5.jpg

                    Rayscaper.

                    Break Dance.jpg

                    Something wonky, the 0/0 samples/px doesn't look good. It seems like it never started rendering. What happens if you switch to CPU rendering as a test?

                    • Menu > File > Settings...
                    • Tick off the "Use GPU Rendering"

                    617208a0-cb77-4c9e-94e7-9d848ad57119-image.png

                    I'm the developer of Rayscaper: https://rayscaper.com/ - Fast and easy rendering for SketchUp.

                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • Mike AmosM Offline
                      Mike Amos
                      last edited by

                      I have already ticked 'use gpu rendering' a while ago when the system was changed.

                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • pixelcruncherP Offline
                        pixelcruncher Extension Creator
                        last edited by pixelcruncher

                        Hey Mike,

                        I have already ticked 'use gpu rendering' a while ago when the system was changed.

                        I just wanted to check if the model renders correctly with the CPU and try to isolate the problem to GPU rendering.

                        It does render for me using GPU rendering; the model is surprisingly polygon-heavy. I do see the same problem with the flames texture and the alpha channel:

                        image.png

                        I guess you are using the same flames texture in Twilight Render. I'm surprised it gives such a nice result because this flame texture doesn't have a clean alpha channel. There's a pattern in the alpha channel:

                        image.png

                        Does Twilight Render have a way to display thumbnails for textures? I'm intrigued at how it can render this so cleanly.

                        Cheers,
                        Thomas

                        I'm the developer of Rayscaper: https://rayscaper.com/ - Fast and easy rendering for SketchUp.

                        Mike AmosM 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • Mike AmosM Offline
                          Mike Amos @pixelcruncher
                          last edited by

                          @pixelcruncher

                          I spotted the alpha chanel stuff earlier when attemping to use that =texture for the log fire in the cold view scene. Weird.

                          Transparency png are flaky tbh and I am looking to 'try' with 3d flames, I shall need a lot of paracetamol for that though.

                          No idea if Twilight has any fanciness in this respect, Fletch and Chris are now gone so, relying on my daffy memory which is seive quality.

                          I have notice that having a backgrounbd which has some commonality to the transparency helps. The red/scarlet works best here.

                          I have attempted to recreate a scene with cutaway and limiting nayural light to that provided by the geometry, windows etc. Many splats with no report just the windows desktop.

                          I shall leave this here, needs a lot of adjustemnt lighting levels wise but gives a reasonable render potential.

                          The semi opaque walls, not so sure about.

                          5 1000s 2174 x 1051 3m 01s GPU Irfanview.jpg

                          Mike AmosM 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • Mike AmosM Offline
                            Mike Amos @Mike Amos
                            last edited by

                            Adjustment.

                            7 1000s 2174 x 1051 3m 27s GPU.png

                            Mike AmosM 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • Mike AmosM Offline
                              Mike Amos @Mike Amos
                              last edited by

                              OK, finally got the onboard graphics online, adopted the classic engine in Sketchup and rebooted. Produced an immediate error in windows which I hope is a transient.

                              I think there is an improvement in this image, same view and same render time but 'feels' better. Opinions?

                              8 1000s 2174 x 1051 3m 27s GPU.png

                              Rich O BrienR 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                              • Rich O BrienR Offline
                                Rich O Brien Moderator @Mike Amos
                                last edited by

                                @Mike-Amos said in Post diagnosis.:

                                Produced an immediate error in windows which I hope is a transient.

                                When you mention onboard are you referring to integrated graphics in a CPU like Intel UHD? Or is this onboard the GPU?

                                I'd be concerned by the 'immediate error' as that suggest conflict.

                                Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

                                Mike AmosM 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • Mike AmosM Offline
                                  Mike Amos @Rich O Brien
                                  last edited by

                                  @Rich-O-Brien

                                  Sorry, I do not think the graphics are the issue.

                                  Something about megascans when I restarted Sketchup after making the changes in BIOS.

                                  I am seeing a thirty second or more delay when selecting, painting a surface or importing an object which is something I have been seeing anyway. SKetchcup can take a minute or more to load to the welcom screen and then open a model even one saved to the OS drive.

                                  Having said that, I sometimes get a onedrive saving error "Cannot save, this file is already in use by another user", this turns out to be a one drive folder in my microsnot account. These two renders were consecutive and I have no clue. The bonus is that in true architect fashion, the second render does bring the garden "Indoors"......

                                  9 1000s 2174 x 1051 3m 34s GPU.png

                                  10 1000s 2174 x 1051 3m 34s GPU.png

                                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • Mike AmosM Offline
                                    Mike Amos
                                    last edited by

                                    BTW, onedrive was deleted after being deactivated.

                                    Mike AmosM 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • Mike AmosM Offline
                                      Mike Amos @Mike Amos
                                      last edited by

                                      Well, that vanishing trick with walls/floors has not repeated.

                                      Close to the intent with this.

                                      11 1000s 2174 x 1051 4m 05s GPU.png

                                      Mike AmosM 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 2
                                      • Mike AmosM Offline
                                        Mike Amos @Mike Amos
                                        last edited by

                                        Exterior view.

                                        12 1000s 2174 x 1051 3m 14s GPU.png

                                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                                        • tuna1957T Offline
                                          tuna1957
                                          last edited by

                                          Interesting design. Keep after it. πŸ‘

                                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                                          • Mike AmosM Offline
                                            Mike Amos
                                            last edited by

                                            Ta, looking to different textures and lighting schemes.

                                            The crazy cat motif is there to demonstrate a dialectic glass effect which may take experimentation. As will the interior walls set to glass.

                                            13 1000s 2174 x 1051 4m 13s GPU.png

                                            Mike AmosM 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 2
                                            • 1
                                            • 2
                                            • 3
                                            • 4
                                            • 3 / 4
                                            • First post
                                              Last post
                                            Buy SketchPlus
                                            Buy SUbD
                                            Buy WrapR
                                            Buy eBook
                                            Buy Modelur
                                            Buy Vertex Tools
                                            Buy SketchCuisine
                                            Buy FormFonts

                                            Advertisement