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  • M Offline
    medeek
    last edited by 19 Dec 2024, 14:20

    First look at an inverted T-Shape staircase with a straight and a curved flare:

    wall_su841_800.jpg wall_su842_800.jpg

    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
    Medeek Engineering Inc
    design.medeek.com

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    • M Offline
      medeek
      last edited by 20 Dec 2024, 11:01

      Here is a quick study of the three types of tread extensions that are probably the most common. I can probably make this happen but it will have a number of new parameters in yet another sub-menu.

      With the half and full round, the riser simply follows the nosing dimension, however with the square cut extension the amount of the riser extension could be independent.

      For both the full and half round the radius of the curve is paramount but also the placement of the center of the curve in the Y direction (perpendicular to the stringers). The extension variable can be used for the Y-dir placement of the curve.

      The round nosing makes things a bit interesting but that can also be dealt with by breaking things down into a piecemeal modeling algorithm and then using some boolean addition of solids.

      The parameters shall be:

      Tread Extension Options:

      Extension Side: Both, Left, Right
      Extension Type: Square, Round, Half Round
      Tread Ext. Length: 10" etc... (this variable also sets Y placement of center of curve)
      Riser Ext. Length: 8" etc... (only applies to the square ext.)
      Extension Radius: 10" etc... (only applies to full or half round extension)

      I never get a day of rest, maybe after this update I'll move back to the Floor plugin...

      wall_su843_800.jpg wall_su844_800.jpg wall_su845_800.jpg

      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
      Medeek Engineering Inc
      design.medeek.com

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      • M Offline
        medeek
        last edited by medeek 21 Dec 2024, 13:56

        If I enable some turn outs and volutes I will need to adjust for these but also I need to provide some additional parameters so one can fine tune the placement of the handrail and its termination:

        wall_su847_800.jpg

        wall_su848_800.jpg

        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
        Medeek Engineering Inc
        design.medeek.com

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        • M Offline
          medeek
          last edited by 26 Dec 2024, 15:53

          So this is currently a specific limitation when it comes to handrails:

          wall_su863_800.jpg

          The issue here is that each run of stairs literally needs it own handrail sub-menu (set of parameters). Globally the handrail options are fine but as soon as you start adding landings you then have multiple stair runs and it quickly gets complicated. Note that the same handrail settings get applied to each run of stairs currently, this is less than desirable with complex stairs.

          Of course the workaround for this is to not rely on the automatic landing functionality and create each separate run of stairs as a separate assembly (linear stair runs only). However this negates the convenience of having the landing and winder options that I recently added.

          Yes, I’m a bit in the weeds now but I want this new handrail system to be as functional and fully featured and efficient as possible. I will need to put on my thinking cap and come up with a viable solution that is not too complicated (for a complex problem).

          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
          Medeek Engineering Inc
          design.medeek.com

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          • G Offline
            gullfo
            last edited by 26 Dec 2024, 17:31

            one option might be to have the handrails independent of the riser sections. you could create a stair assembly from whatever your stair setup is (like a component with unified stair metadata inside it), then add the handrails over the entire structure - which could be a continuous rail or segmented, etc. might be easier to code it this way by reading the overall stair assembly metadata and use that to generate the handrails.

            Glenn

            http://www.runnel.com

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            • M Offline
              medeek
              last edited by 27 Dec 2024, 00:52

              Version 3.7.9 - 12.26.2024

              • Added the inverted T-Shape landing.
              • Enabled straight and curved flared staircases.
              • Added 37 handrail fittings into the built-in handrail fittings library.
              • Updated the handrail module with additional parameters for over-the-post handrail systems.
              • Enabled additional handrail sub-menus for multi-landing stair assemblies.

              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
              Medeek Engineering Inc
              design.medeek.com

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              • M Offline
                medeek
                last edited by 27 Dec 2024, 00:55

                Tutorial 57 - Over-the-Post Handrails and Fittings (18.42 min.)

                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                Medeek Engineering Inc
                design.medeek.com

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                • M Offline
                  medeek
                  last edited by 31 Dec 2024, 01:23

                  Version 3.8.0 - 12.30.2024

                  • Enabled open tread staircases.
                  • Added sub-menus for multiple stair runs for open treads.
                  • Added the following starter steps: square, full round and half round.
                  • Added a return parameter for square cut starter steps.
                  • Enabled flared handrails (over-the-post) for straight and curved flared staircases.

                  Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                  Medeek Engineering Inc
                  design.medeek.com

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                  • M Offline
                    medeek
                    last edited by 31 Dec 2024, 06:59

                    Tutorial 58 - Open Treads and Starter Steps (7:35 min.)

                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                    design.medeek.com

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                    • T Offline
                      TIG Moderator
                      last edited by 31 Dec 2024, 13:23

                      Is there a way to increase the size of the top-landing or intermediate-landings so that the nosings are one tread dim offset ?
                      That way the handrail turns properly - smoothly without a vertical drop.
                      Some localities' codes require the landings to be a tread or 300mm bigger than the stair's width.
                      Also extending the handrail a similar amount at the top and bottom is required...

                      Separately... the FollowMe twisting of the profile along complex paths is longstanding.
                      Extensions like Upright Extruder sidestep this; so you need to emulate those...

                      TIG

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                      • M Offline
                        medeek
                        last edited by 2 Jan 2025, 08:03

                        Version 3.8.1 - 01.02.2025

                        • Added additional sizes to the post module for steel square tubes.
                        • Updated the side spacer algorithm for stairs.
                        • Enabled wood grain texture for treads, risers, thrust blocks and stringers.
                        • Enabled a multi-board tread and spacing parameter for stairs.

                        wall_su882_800.jpg wall_su883_800.jpg wall_su884_800.jpg

                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                        design.medeek.com

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                        • M Offline
                          medeek @TIG
                          last edited by medeek 1 Feb 2025, 08:06 2 Jan 2025, 08:04

                          @TIG The landings are not super sophisticated yet, mostly place holders. Still a bit of work to do on them.

                          The drop on the handrails (over-the-post) is fairly typical from what I've seen. I'm getting most of my reference material from ljsmith.com

                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                          design.medeek.com

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                          • M Offline
                            medeek
                            last edited by 2 Jan 2025, 08:39

                            Tutorial 59 - Multi-Board Treads and Side Spacers (7:15 min.)

                            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                            Medeek Engineering Inc
                            design.medeek.com

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                            • M Offline
                              medeek
                              last edited by 6 Jan 2025, 01:21

                              Version 3.8.2 - 01.05.2025

                              • Added balusters to the stair module for vertical and OTP handrails.
                              • Added newel posts to the stair module for vertical and OTP handrails.

                              Tutorial 60 - Balusters, Posts and Handrails (16:39)

                              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                              Medeek Engineering Inc
                              design.medeek.com

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                              • M Offline
                                medeek
                                last edited by 10 Jan 2025, 07:33

                                Version 3.8.3 - 01.10.2025

                                • Added a "deck" profile or option for handrails (with balusters) to the stair module.

                                Tutorial 61- Handrails for Decks (8:51 min.)

                                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                Medeek Engineering Inc
                                design.medeek.com

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                                • M Offline
                                  medeek
                                  last edited by 14 Jan 2025, 21:45

                                  Version 3.8.4 - 01.14.2025

                                  • Added a minimum winder depth parameter for all stair winder types.
                                  • Adjusted the deck handrail algorithm for narrow cap rails (2x4).

                                  wall_su897_800.jpg

                                  Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                  Medeek Engineering Inc
                                  design.medeek.com

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                                  • M Offline
                                    medeek
                                    last edited by 22 Jan 2025, 05:36

                                    Version 3.8.5 - 01.21.2025

                                    • Updated the skirt boards to accommodate open treads.
                                    • Added tread covers, carpet and stair runners for stairs, landings and winders.

                                    wall_su905_800.jpg wall_su906_800.jpg wall_su907_800.jpg wall_su908_800.jpg wall_su909_800.jpg wall_su910_800.jpg wall_su911_800.jpg

                                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                                    design.medeek.com

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                                    • M Offline
                                      medeek
                                      last edited by 22 Jan 2025, 07:32

                                      Tutorial 63 - Stair Runners and Tread Covers (10:06 min.)

                                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                                      design.medeek.com

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                                      • M Offline
                                        medeek
                                        last edited by 26 Jan 2025, 04:56

                                        [b]Version 3.8.6[/b] - 01.25.2025

                                        • Added tread covers, carpet and stair runners for T-shaped landings.
                                        • Enabled the option for a single stringer (for modern style stairs).
                                        • Added an option to disable the placeholder for landing/winder framing.
                                        • Added a "GLASS" option for balusters within the built-in baluster materials.
                                        • Added a "None" built-in option for the handrail profile parameter.

                                        wall_su918_800.jpg wall_su919_800.jpg wall_su920_800.jpg

                                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                                        design.medeek.com

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                                        • M Offline
                                          medeek
                                          last edited by medeek 26 Jan 2025, 06:42

                                          Tutorial 64 - Modern Stairs (12:43 min.)

                                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                                          design.medeek.com

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