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    pilou
    last edited by 31 May 2022, 09:29

    @panixia
    Thx for the Infos! 😎
    Not so sophisticated than Max 3D but free and more easy the cool Rocket 3F πŸ˜‰

    Frenchy Pilou
    Is beautiful that please without concept!
    My Little site :)

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      panixia
      last edited by 31 May 2022, 20:20

      @pilou said:

      Very cool , but why hours ? SU is maybe not the adapted tool for that! πŸ˜‰

      Well, I also use a lot of 3dsMax for my actual work, but in some cases i prefer to work in sketchup even for freeform modeling because it has to be integrated in some architectural project or stuff like that, where you need proper dimensions.

      Sketchup is a lot more accurate than Max, and some tools are by far superior. For example you cannot compare the rotate tool with soft selection whit any of the 3dsMax tools... also the merge to point tools is way better than max's target weld... just to name a couple.

      That said, I switch a lot back and forth between the 2 software for almost any project so I don't feel like I have to pick one in particular over the other. I just constantly keep training myself with both of them.

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        panixia
        last edited by 1 Jun 2022, 07:33

        Well, that looks a cool software if you just want to have some fun, but I need something more "industry standard".
        I actually use an old 3dsMax 2015, because I've got perpetual license for that.. not the most updated of course, but still capable to deal with cad/dwg/step files and of course sketchup files, plus it supports a decent Vray version which also I've got with perpetual license.
        It has a number of "production ready" features such as the non destructive modifier stack to keep different versions/iterations of models, it's fully capable of baking normal maps and lightmaps (which is crucial for me because I mainly work with VR/game engine stuff) it has a lot of plugins, tutorials and resources.
        If I'll ever think to switch to different software, that would be Blender, which is groving fast.. still not good to work with cad oriented workflow, but I use it a lot to import and convert GLTFs or newest FBX version which my old 3dsmax can't handle.
        But for now I'm too lazy to relearn everithing in Blender, I'm still more confortable with my workflow based on Sketchup, 3dsMax, Vray, Substance, Unity.. plus I've got perpetual license for all of them, so I don't need to pay additional moneys every year to keep them going.
        I'll gradually switch to Blender when all of my perpetual software will get too much outdated, but for now it's all fine.

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          pilou
          last edited by 1 Jun 2022, 13:09

          @panixia
          If you need "industry standard" and don't want have headaches try Moment of Inspiration! πŸ˜‰
          by Michael Gibson (one of the father of Rhino 3D πŸ˜‰
          the Rolls of ergonomy! 😎
          It's nurbs, compatible with Rhino 3D (Ctrl + C, Ctrl + V) in the 2 ways!
          Has rustic but yet sufficient subdivision inside!
          Has an export SketchUp! πŸ˜‰
          The best Nurbs export of the market to OBJ ! 😎
          Has 2 methods of objects OBJ format importation (better if objects are quadrangulated)
          Not free but very reasonnable price! (295 usd perpetual licence)
          And invaluable priceless you have the direct contact with the creator for any problem!!!
          (modelisation or UI or use)
          and even you can ask any personal "plugin/ function" if that be made in less 15 minutes! 😎
          all the community will profit of your asking one! β˜€
          And you can use the next complete beta free (during in general 3 years) before the update of final next version!
          From my point of view the best one (for the price) at this day in this domain! 😎

          Frenchy Pilou
          Is beautiful that please without concept!
          My Little site :)

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            panixia
            last edited by 2 Jun 2022, 07:29

            NURBS modeling is bad for rendering, but is EXTREMELY bad for realtime/VR workflow.
            I know MOI, i know Rhino and they are a nightamre to deal with when it comes to "game ready" models.
            Believe me, I'm really happy with my workflow, which is 100% proven and rock-solid, it gives me very predictable results and full control over polygons and UV's.
            Every time someone tries to convince me about switching to a different workflow, in particular nurbs workflow, i feel a bit like Raikkonen. 🀣 🀣 🀣

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              pilou
              last edited by 2 Jun 2022, 09:17

              🀒

              Frenchy Pilou
              Is beautiful that please without concept!
              My Little site :)

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              • topic:timeago-later,6 months
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                Rich O Brien Moderator
                last edited by 5 Dec 2022, 14:24

                Earbuds

                https://i.imgur.com/IQdO2mm.png

                https://i.imgur.com/BvLTHzc.png

                Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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                  HornOxx
                  last edited by 5 Dec 2022, 19:41

                  πŸ‘ so effective and nicely done πŸ˜„

                  never trust a skinny cook

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                    panixia
                    last edited by 7 Dec 2022, 23:57

                    @rich o brien said:

                    Earbuds

                    https://i.imgur.com/IQdO2mm.png

                    https://i.imgur.com/BvLTHzc.png

                    Nice and clean job.
                    Really clever use of the "two step" subdivision on the hole.
                    I use that trick a lot. πŸ˜‰

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                    • topic:timeago-later,19 days
                    • BoxB Offline
                      Box
                      last edited by 26 Dec 2022, 12:07

                      What happens when you SUbD some cubes then hit them with Clothworks.


                      Christmas box Ambient 01.jpg

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                        HornOxx
                        last edited by 26 Dec 2022, 13:41

                        @box said:

                        What happens when you SUbD some cubes then hit them with Clothworks.
                        πŸ˜„ well, definitely a cool result πŸ‘

                        never trust a skinny cook

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                        • topic:timeago-later,14 days
                        • tuna1957T Offline
                          tuna1957
                          last edited by 10 Jan 2023, 00:47

                          May not be as cool as Box’s squished ballon things .. but needed a vintage dish soap bottle. SubD the best tool for the job. And to all you youngsters the bottles weren’t clear way back in the day. πŸ˜† πŸ˜‰ 😎


                          vintage joy soap.jpg

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                          • BoxB Offline
                            Box
                            last edited by 10 Jan 2023, 01:10

                            There is a lot more skill involved in making a shape that matches something in the real world than there is in my random musings. πŸ‘

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                              tuna1957
                              last edited by 10 Jan 2023, 01:30

                              @box said:

                              There is a lot more skill involved in making a shape that matches something in the real world than there is in my random musings. πŸ‘

                              Thanks Box . Your to kind. πŸ‘

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                                HornOxx
                                last edited by 10 Jan 2023, 02:57

                                @tuna1957 said:

                                ...SubD the best tool for the job...
                                πŸ‘ which is absolutely right! Prima!

                                never trust a skinny cook

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                                • tuna1957T Offline
                                  tuna1957
                                  last edited by 10 Jan 2023, 03:23

                                  Thanks HornOxx. Fooled about trying some other approaches just for practice. Abandoned other ways for SubD and β€œbing bang” it was done. πŸ˜†

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                                  • topic:timeago-later,14 days
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                                    panixia
                                    last edited by 24 Jan 2023, 11:33

                                    I believe I've found a fun retopolgy workaround in Sketchup 🀣
                                    Of course is not as powerful as some dedicated tools like Topogun, but it can get the job done on simple objects without switching to a different software.

                                    RetopologyWorkaround.jpg

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                                      pilou
                                      last edited by 24 Jan 2023, 12:00

                                      And what is exactly this workaround ? πŸ˜„

                                      Frenchy Pilou
                                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                      My Little site :)

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                                        panixia
                                        last edited by 24 Jan 2023, 12:06

                                        I simply smooth all edges from the triangulated mess, then I draw some pseudo-quad topology with TOS, extract that as a group, do a quick cleanup using VT2 "merge close vertices", and then use the most overlooked feature of QFT (convert wireframe into quads) to create a quadmesh to subdivide.
                                        The smoothed mesh is just a tiny bit smaller of course because of the subdivision, so you may want to compensate for that with a little JPP.

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                                          pilou
                                          last edited by 24 Jan 2023, 14:52

                                          Many thanks for the infos! 😎

                                          Frenchy Pilou
                                          Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                          My Little site :)

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