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    [Plugin][$] JointPushPull Interactive - v4.9a - 02 Apr 25

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    • Dave RD Offline
      Dave R
      last edited by

      "JointPushPull_v4.4e.rbz konnte nicht installiert werden."

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      • TIGT Offline
        TIG Moderator
        last edited by

        If you have successfully downloaded Fredo's extension as an RBZ file, then you still need to 'Install' it... using the appropriate button on SketchUp's 'Extension Manager' dialog...
        But note that, as explained in the extension's notes, it also requires you to download and install a suitable version of the Libfredo... RBZ... [>=8.7]
        After that you will need to restart SketchUp to 'sync' the loading files...

        TIG

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        • R Offline
          Raimondo_Vincenti
          last edited by

          Fredo6 Libfredo6 is installed (Version11.4f) is installed
          Still cannot install JointPushPull - a Sketchup 2021 problem?

          I could use JountPushPull in Sketchup 2020.


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          • E Offline
            Einstein
            last edited by

            Hello,
            I got an error with joint push pull extrusion in SketchUp 2020.

            Date: 10-Jan-21 15:59:27
            An error occurred in Joint Push Pull
            Error in generation of the geometry

            undefined method `target' for nil:NilClass

            jointpushpullgeometry.rbe: 447 -- block in geometry_create_top_face
            jointpushpullgeometry.rbe: 445 -- collect
            jointpushpullgeometry.rbe: 445 -- geometry_create_top_face
            jointpushpullgeometry.rbe: 258 -- block in geometry_robot_prepare_mesh
            jointpushpullgeometry.rbe: 257 -- each
            jointpushpullgeometry.rbe: 257 -- each_with_index
            jointpushpullgeometry.rbe: 257 -- geometry_robot_prepare_mesh
            jointpushpullgeometry.rbe: 212 -- robot_call_action
            jointpushpullgeometry.rbe: 183 -- geometry_robot_exec
            jointpushpullgeometry.rbe: 166 -- geometry_robot
            jointpushpullgeometry.rbe: 81 -- block in geometry_execute
            lib6operation.rbe: 369 -- step_geometry
            lib6operation.rbe: 304 -- block in yield?


            JPP error.skp


            JPP error.jpg

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            • fredo6F Offline
              fredo6
              last edited by

              I guess you wish to push-pull all faces.

              Then, you have a number of them which are ill-formed and there is nothing JPP can do about it. For instance, these group of buildings:

              Einstein - JPP - faces 1.png

              Einstein - JPP - faces 2.png

              Einstein - JPP - faces 3.png

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              • E Offline
                Einstein
                last edited by

                Then would it be possible for the plugin to skip the ill-formed faces, leave them unextruded and proceed?
                Ok, some of the faces are broken but most of them are OK. Why break entire operation due to a few wicked faces?

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                • Dave RD Offline
                  Dave R
                  last edited by

                  Why not clean up the model before you add more geometry and potentially make more problems for yourself?

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                  • fredo6F Offline
                    fredo6
                    last edited by

                    @einstein said:

                    Then would it be possible for the plugin to skip the ill-formed faces, leave them unextruded and proceed?
                    Ok, some of the faces are broken but most of them are OK. Why break entire operation due to a few wicked faces?

                    I concur with Dave. Better clean up the model if you wish to do something with it.

                    Detecting and cleaning the problem is a whole big task in itself. It could deserve a plugin. This is not like Sketchup tells you the face is ill-formed or not. Actually, these faces are toplogically valid for Sketchup but they won't work with many transformations and operations.

                    So, using a detection and fixing before operating JPP would be counterproductive and a big hit to performance in 99.9% of cases where the geometry is OK.

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                    • Dave RD Offline
                      Dave R
                      last edited by

                      Thom Thom's CleanUp3 could remove coplanar edges to merge faces although it may not remove the correct edges. In this particular model it would be difficult for an extension to identify which edges should be removed.

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                      • E Offline
                        Einstein
                        last edited by

                        That's weird. I actually did a cleanup using ThomThom's plugin and JPP first threw an error. Then did a cleanup again and JPP worked fine.
                        I don't know why it happened but sorry for bothering you.

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                        • J Offline
                          jpaine
                          last edited by

                          Hi everyone,

                          Is project shape on a plane possible on a Mac? I can't seem to find this option.

                          Thanks

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                            iggi
                            last edited by

                            Hi,
                            how do you report a bug?
                            (well, I believe that what I see is a bug, not a feature ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

                            version 4.4e, Sk Pro

                            Regards,

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                            • fredo6F Offline
                              fredo6
                              last edited by

                              @iggi,

                              Can you send me the model.

                              I think it has to do with the original circular profile sections, which are not generated parallel to the axes.

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                                rv1974
                                last edited by

                                Fredo wouldn't it be fantastic to add context-free JPP mode for edges? It would demand some smart path selection tool similar to the one in profile builder.

                                http://www.scriptspot.com/files/straightencorners_cmprspd.gif

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                                • fredo6F Offline
                                  fredo6
                                  last edited by

                                  That's a different plugin, because the extrusion is based on contour lines, not faces.

                                  Interesting anyway.

                                  Which software is it?

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                                  • R Offline
                                    rv1974
                                    last edited by

                                    some script for Max. If you could develop it for SU.. it'd have a huge advantage because
                                    SU allows to 'hack' the context hierarchy.

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                                    • panixiaP Offline
                                      panixia
                                      last edited by

                                      @rv1974 said:

                                      some script for Max. If you could develop it for SU.. it'd have a huge advantage because
                                      SU allows to 'hack' the context hierarchy.

                                      Which script is that? Is free?
                                      In Max I'm able to do 99% of that stuff without any script at all just using regular editpoly edge mode (just select the loop, set "normal" constraint, extrude/scale and then pull up and down without constraints).
                                      But that corner options look intriguing btw.. โ“

                                      I did a similar request to Thomas, because I feel that normal constraint is one of the few mayor tool still missing in the QFT/VT/SubD workflow.
                                      Not sure this edge job is suitable for JPP itself which is more of a shell/push/face extrude tool.
                                      But never put limits to the Fredo power.. Maybe some normal face extrude logic is reusable on edges? ๐Ÿ˜„

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                                        rv1974
                                        last edited by

                                        https://www.scriptspot.com/3ds-max/scripts/extend-borders
                                        Yes it'd be natural to expect tool like this from Fredo or TT. I also saw Whaat is working on all-quad Artisan 2.

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                                        • panixiaP Offline
                                          panixia
                                          last edited by

                                          @rv1974 said:

                                          https://www.scriptspot.com/3ds-max/scripts/extend-borders
                                          Yes it'd be natural to expect tool like this from Fredo or TT. I also saw Whaat is working on all-quad Artisan 2.

                                          Thank you. Too bad the download link doesn't work anymore. ๐Ÿ˜•

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                                            rv1974
                                            last edited by

                                            works perfectly here.
                                            try direct:
                                            https://www.racoon-artworks.de/resource_extendborders.php
                                            p.s. his ShapeConnect is also interesting:

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