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    • J Offline
      jonorman
      last edited by

      Ok, a bit short explanation πŸ˜„

      Example.

      I model a pipe, steel pipe. Create a material in SU and load a albedo image. Then i use Fredos Thru paint (latest version) and i texture it using Quadmesh UV mapping. The texture adds nicely in SU and I`m all happy to send it to TM using the sync tool (No merging, keeping all objects)
      When the model shows up in TM, i load the rest of the textures, roughness, metallic and bump.
      The model looks good in TM.
      Now I save the model in SU and TM and shut down for the day.

      Next day: Open SU model, open Twinmotion model.. Maybe I add somthing in SU, maybe a second pipe, using the same workflow as described above, and syncing with TM The material i added on the first pipe the day before are gone and replaced with the one from SU.
      I have to reload all the other maps. Rough, metallic and bump..

      This happens every time. I found another comment on this issue in the TM forums, saying it had to do with our favorite mapping tools, Thrupaint.. πŸ˜• (I don't belivee it πŸ˜„)

      Hope this makes sense πŸ˜„

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        misticalages
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        Hello dear Fredo,

        I come across a problem regarding ThruPaint, makeing it exporting separate material for each face, which i don't want it to happen. πŸ€“ Final model exports and it has for like 238 materials and so...

        I encountered and found out when i was changing the material and deleting it, the error it never happens. 😐

        Using Sketchup 2020 and the last FredoTools on the sketchUcation.

        https://discourse-cloud-file-uploads.s3.dualstack.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/sketchup/original/3X/c/c/ccaa7394f365bbd6c76312fcda8d503ecfef5377.png

        Thank you.
        Misticalages

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        • S Offline
          suprachs
          last edited by

          I am using sketchup pro 2020, installed ThruPhaint, does not show buttons, images cannot be used.


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          • fredo6F Offline
            fredo6
            last edited by

            @suprachs said:

            I am using sketchup pro 2020, installed ThruPaint, does not show buttons, images cannot be used.

            Are you on Sketchup 2016?

            If so, you need to take the legacy version of LibFredo6 and the legacy version of FredoTools.

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            • R Offline
              rv1974
              last edited by

              Fredo may I ask some childish question?
              Is there any fundamental difficulty to implement Natural UV mode that is aligned to longes edges of the tube-like surfaces? Just like QuadMesh UV mode but without distortions?

              Legend:
              1- QuadMesh UV mode (almost OK except distortions)
              2- Current Natural UV mode (messy)
              3- The desired one- every segment of the tube gets aligned to direction distortion-free UV mapping. I can achieve it with a current Natural UV mode (clicking segment by segment) but is it possible to get it with single click?


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                tomaszdrgas
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                ​It doesn't crush ENScape or something so don't worry..
                Enscape is a render plugin for sketchup and few other like Rhino, Vectorworks..

                I found that if I set up an ENS material and "Save As" it to some library, Fredo6 ThruPaint (which I use actually instead of native paint bucket) doesn't see ENS specific settings when introducing new material to the model.. It works with no problem when material is already one of the materials.

                So if You have created a library of ENS setted up materials and want to use them in Your model, than when You pick the material from that library and paint it in Your model for the first time do it with native sKetchup Paint Tool. ThruPaint will make it a 'flat' sKetchup material loosing any links to bump, roughness etc. and mixing Tint Color and Color settings into texture image..

                I don't really know who should fix what in order to make it work so I let know to both. I love ThruPaint and I have to use ENS.

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                  tomaszdrgas
                  last edited by

                  @rv1974 said:

                  Fredo may I ask some childish question?
                  Is there any fundamental difficulty to implement Natural UV mode that is aligned to longes edges of the tube-like surfaces? Just like QuadMesh UV mode but without distortions?

                  I guess that main problem is that plugin doesn't really know which direction is prefered one,. maybe we could assume the red 'U' direction..
                  Second problem ThruPaint tries very hard to make texturing continues.. As far as I have seen Your desired result it has breakes on every bend of tube.. So I guess You want some mix of 'quad' abd 'natural uv' modes.. Just select and paint each segment seperatly with 'natural uv'.. As You did I guess..

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                    peerapat
                    last edited by

                    Thanks Fredo

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                      rv1974
                      last edited by

                      @unknownuser said:

                      I guess that main problem is that plugin doesn't really know which direction is prefered one,. maybe we could assume the red 'U' direction..
                      Second problem ThruPaint tries very hard to make texturing continues.. As far as I have seen Your desired result it has breakes on every bend of tube.. So I guess You want some mix of 'quad' abd 'natural uv' modes.. Just select and paint each segment separately with 'natural uv'.. As You did I guess..

                      But somehow it does know the preferred dimension when applying "Quad" UV". Plus, tools like Profile Builder manage to apply UVs correctly when generating new geometry. Indeed, essentially I'm asking is a hybrid of quad + natural modes. I think it's the most preferred mode for architects. It'd be nice to hear from Fredo if this hybrid mode is theoretically possible.
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                      @unknownuser said:

                      Just select and paint each segment separately with 'natural uv'.. As You did I guess

                      Right, manual clicking segment by segment is the current solution, but in many cases it's too laborious..

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                      • K Offline
                        kevvv
                        last edited by

                        where can i get this?

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                        • Dave RD Offline
                          Dave R
                          last edited by

                          @kevvv said:

                          where can i get this?

                          If you look at the first post in this thread you will see it's part of FredoTools and the link for it.

                          By the way, your profile says you are using SketchUp 2019 Free/Make but that's impossible. Please update your profile with the correct version.

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                            kingfisher13
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                            I don't know what is going on, but Thrupaint is giving me so many issues right now. Its frustrating me to the point where I don't even want to use Sketchup anymore. I created a geometrically perfect onion dome, made of ENTIRELY quads, with no issues or errors in the construction.

                            When I try to use the Quad UV wrap to wrap a mosaic tile texture around the dome, it gives me errors every time. I get the yellow errors, and I get red errors, where it says the faces don't have 3 or 4 vertices, when they all do. I've been unable to texture this thrice d**ned dome because of it. Its ruining my project, and I really don't want to have to export the dome to 3ds Max to wrap the texture, because then it will need to be triangulated, which will completely mess it up when I import it back into Sketchup.

                            Does anyone have a solution for this stupid bug I keep experiencing?

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                            • Dave RD Offline
                              Dave R
                              last edited by

                              @kingfisher13 said:

                              Does anyone have a solution for this stupid bug I keep experiencing?

                              What version of SketchUp are you using? What operating system? That information is important. Please complete your profile.

                              If you share your SketchUp model file so we can see exactly what you have, we can give you some guidance.

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                              • fredo6F Offline
                                fredo6
                                last edited by

                                @kingfisher13 said:

                                When I try to use the Quad UV wrap to wrap a mosaic tile texture around the dome, it gives me errors every time. I get the yellow errors, and I get red errors, where it says the faces don't have 3 or 4 vertices, when they all do. I've been unable to texture this thrice d**ned dome because of it.

                                A dome is typically not suitable for QuadUV. QuadUV is for a grid, with rows and columns, where it is possible for ThruPaint to follow the shape.
                                Now, it would be useful to have your model [or part of it] to advise on what you could do for texturing.

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                                  bsfranza
                                  last edited by

                                  hi there,

                                  is it possible to turn off that sound when "picking" materials from the scene?

                                  i have looked inside the pluginfolder if maybe i find a sound file that i coud just delete πŸ˜„?

                                  best, franz

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                                  • fredo6F Offline
                                    fredo6
                                    last edited by

                                    @bsfranza said:

                                    i have looked inside the pluginfolder if maybe i find a sound file that i coud just delete πŸ˜„?

                                    The file is in folder Fredo6_!LibFredo6/IMAGES_Standard, with name Camera_click.wav.

                                    If you rename it or remove it, it should not play the sound.

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                                      Einstein
                                      last edited by

                                      Hi,
                                      I think it would be cool to have one more selection option - all selected groups. With it we could paint all selected groups through with a single click (even if they had materials applied to faces), possibly without changing their UVs.
                                      What do you think about this idea?

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                                        williamhhf
                                        last edited by

                                        hi there, i can't download it, just showed blank pop up window after click download

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                                          rv1974
                                          last edited by

                                          How do I activate material sampler and UV mode without icon? Is there dedicated modifier key? Thanks

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                                          • fredo6F Offline
                                            fredo6
                                            last edited by

                                            For the sampler; press or toggle Shift.

                                            For the UV Mode, I guess you mean Natural, Projected and QuadMesh. There is no shortcut for that currently.

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