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    • thomthomT Offline
      thomthom
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      @cmeed said:

      Loving the vertex slide. question - Can we copy the vertexes along the edge?
      the cursor changes, adds plus and minus with the addition of shift. I assume there isn't a copy function? (yet?)

      That's interesting. I'll have to think a little on how that would technically work. But I logged it for consideration. πŸ‘

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      • CadFatherC Offline
        CadFather
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        when i choose the select tools from the menu, I only get the rectangle selection.

        works fine from the panel though

        (fantastic update btw)

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        • thomthomT Offline
          thomthom
          last edited by

          @cadfather said:

          when i choose the select tools from the menu, I only get the rectangle selection.

          Menu or toolbar? Exactly what item do you select? Can you do a screenshot for me?

          Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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          • CadFatherC Offline
            CadFather
            last edited by

            Menu. same thing if i assign a shortcut to them (polygon, freehand, etc)

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            • thomthomT Offline
              thomthom
              last edited by

              Ah! I see the same thing. That's a bug - thank you for reporting!

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              • cmeedC Offline
                cmeed
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                this has probably been asked before - can I move the gizmo and have it snap to a point? in 10 years of questions I think this has been asked.... 'negative' will be the answer.

                maybe i need to ask why cant it?

                cheers
                c

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                • Dave RD Offline
                  Dave R
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                  @cmeed said:

                  'negative' will be the answer.

                  Not so.

                  Right click on the gizmo, choose the option and hold Shift while clicking to place it.

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                  • thomthomT Offline
                    thomthom
                    last edited by

                    @cmeed said:

                    this has probably been asked before - can I move the gizmo and have it snap to a point? in 10 years of questions I think this has been asked.... 'negative' will be the answer.

                    maybe i need to ask why cant it?

                    Because it's not been entirely clear what to snap to. The user grabs hold of the gizmo which is offset from the gizmo origin, so is snapping supposed to snap the origin to the point snapped? Or the point grabbed?

                    There's been some conversations about this - this thread for instance: http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=323&t=66039#p606094

                    Snapping is described to relate relative to the gizmo origin, and with improved control of setting the origin.

                    If you have your own idea of how snapping should work with the Gizmo I'm happy to hear it. I'm not sure everyone has the same expectations on how this would work.

                    Because of that the separate Move/Rotate/Scale tools has been the main means of precision adjustments. While the gizmo is more eyeballing it.

                    I'd be curious to hear why you prefer the Gizmo to snap as oppose to using the separate Move/Rotate/Scale tools. (Maybe there's some improvements with them that you achieve the same thing?)

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                    • thomthomT Offline
                      thomthom
                      last edited by

                      @cmeed said:

                      this has probably been asked before - can I move the gizmo and have it snap to a point?

                      Oh wait, did I read that correctly?

                      Did you talk about snapping while positioning the Gizmo? Or snapping while using the Gizmo Move?

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                        nlipovac
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                        Is it possible to add option, i.e. hold CTRL, when using vertex slide to copy moved vertices and this way I can add loops without exiting Vertex tools?
                        And one more wild one, plus if I hold Shift I get that copy to be parallel to ones I have made copy off.

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                        • thomthomT Offline
                          thomthom
                          last edited by

                          @nlipovac said:

                          Is it possible to add option, i.e. hold CTRL, when using vertex slide to copy moved vertices and this way I can add loops without exiting Vertex tools?

                          It's already on the list for consideration.

                          @nlipovac said:

                          And one more wild one, plus if I hold Shift I get that copy to be parallel to ones I have made copy off.

                          Would this be different than switching Vertex Slide to Slide by Offset instead of Slide by Percent?
                          https://evilsoftwareempire.com/vertex-tools/manual/editing#vertex_slide

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                            nlipovac
                            last edited by

                            @thomthom said:

                            @nlipovac said:

                            Is it possible to add option, i.e. hold CTRL, when using vertex slide to copy moved vertices and this way I can add loops without exiting Vertex tools?

                            It's already on the list for consideration.

                            Great for this one, would be very handy.

                            @nlipovac said:

                            And one more wild one, plus if I hold Shift I get that copy to be parallel to ones I have made copy off.

                            @thomthom said:

                            Would this be different than switching Vertex Slide to Slide by Offset instead of Slide by Percent?
                            https://evilsoftwareempire.com/vertex-tools/manual/editing#vertex_slide

                            As for this one, I mean that when I select one cut loop and use Vertex slide to make a copy it would maintain parallel to one I made copy off and not conform to loop or edge I am pushing it to.
                            Hope it makes sense.
                            Also of the topic, I never learned to make those short gifs, what do you use for that?

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                            • thomthomT Offline
                              thomthom
                              last edited by

                              @nlipovac said:

                              As for this one, I mean that when I select one cut loop and use Vertex slide to make a copy it would maintain parallel to one I made copy off and not conform to loop or edge I am pushing it to.
                              Hope it makes sense.

                              I don't fully manage to visualize what you are asking for. Could you illustrate it by mocking up the desired result compared to existing Offset modes?

                              @nlipovac said:

                              Also of the topic, I never learned to make those short gifs, what do you use for that?

                              I use ScreenPresso, though it's not free. Though there is a number of free ones out there. This one looks interesting: https://www.screentogif.com/

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                                nlipovac
                                last edited by

                                @thomthom said:

                                @nlipovac said:

                                As for this one, I mean that when I select one cut loop and use Vertex slide to make a copy it would maintain parallel to one I made copy off and not conform to loop or edge I am pushing it to.
                                Hope it makes sense.

                                I don't fully manage to visualize what you are asking for. Could you illustrate it by mocking up the desired result compared to existing Offset modes?

                                @nlipovac said:

                                Also of the topic, I never learned to make those short gifs, what do you use for that?

                                I use ScreenPresso, though it's not free. Though there is a number of free ones out there. This one looks interesting: https://www.screentogif.com/

                                Sure, here is two examples, one when I copy and move vertex from center loop and one when I copy and move from edge loop. If not mistaken, at moment we get only proprtional movement.


                                Parallel to the edge


                                Parallel to the middle


                                Proportional

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                                • thomthomT Offline
                                  thomthom
                                  last edited by

                                  @nlipovac said:

                                  If not mistaken, at moment we get only proprtional movement.

                                  If you switch you Slide By Offset I think you will get what you are looking for. (Except that it moves and doesn't copy the loop.)

                                  2020-08-19_21h27_42.gif

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                                    nlipovac
                                    last edited by

                                    @thomthom said:

                                    @nlipovac said:

                                    If not mistaken, at moment we get only proprtional movement.

                                    If you switch you Slide By Offset I think you will get what you are looking for. (Except that it moves and doesn't copy the loop.)

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                                    This would be my mistake then, thank you for clarification. πŸ‘
                                    Just add my self shortcuts for those two.
                                    I am still upvoting on adding an option to copy and move selected vertex.
                                    Loving new tools! πŸ‘

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                                    • pilouP Offline
                                      pilou
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                                      Click this link for see the video! πŸ€“

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                                      • E Offline
                                        Einstein
                                        last edited by

                                        Hi! May I have a couple suggestions for VT2 development?

                                        • more SketchUp-native-like manner of manipulating gizmo's handles. What I mean is that you have to click+drag gizmo's arrow to move a vertex and only then type a precise value. I wish I could click, let mouse go, type value and hit ENTER. This would be more "sketchuppish" behaviour. Maybe there could be a button to choose behaviour.
                                          Also, current behaviour leads to unwanted situations like: when you precisely adjust radius of your soft selection, then drag a gizmo's handle/arrow to move verts, the selection gets updated before you type desired value of move. I wish I could lock/freeze soft selection so it wouldn't update after a transformation is performed - only when I decide to manually change my selection. This could be an adjustable behaviour too and it would help a lot with precise modelling.
                                        • bevel vertices with more segments (like Fredo Corner but Fredo Corner doesn't work with flat faces)
                                        • BUGFIX - when you bevel vertices of a flat face, sometimes the face gets removed (but I'm unable to reproduce the bug now)
                                        • also make possible to bevel verts without manually dragging them, just by typing value and hitting ENTER
                                        • move vertices with snapping (to other vertices, edges, edge midpoints, guides)
                                        • soft selection profile edit and profile presets, like in Blender: dome, pinch, random etc. I know they are on the to-do list, just can't wait for them! πŸ˜„
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                                          Rafhinha
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                                          Hello, how are you..

                                          I bought Vertex 1 and right after that Vertex 2 was launched. When I install Vertex 2 and put my key the following message appears

                                          "There was an unexpected server error while trying to active the license. Please try again in a few moments. If the problem persists, please contact support."

                                          I've tried it several times, already install Vertex 1.

                                          At some point Vertex 2 was released I downloaded, installed and it worked, but it appeared that it was trial trial version

                                          My sketchUp 2020
                                          windows 10


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                                          I am downloading Vertex 2 from the email I received with the license and even so it says it is Trial experied

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                                            Einstein
                                            last edited by

                                            If you only bought Vertex Tools 1 licence, it doesn't work with Vertex Tools 2. 2nd version is way more elaborate tool and I guess that's why the Author charges more for VT2.

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