SketchUp 2019 release

ntxdave · 6 Feb 2019, 00:27

Amazing. Worst fears confirmed.

Kind of my first impression also until I others corrected my understanding of some things. The Classic version and it's licensing continues the environment we have been used to.

alpro · 6 Feb 2019, 02:07

Can I change my vote in the poll?? I've been using Sketchup since version 6 and had really high hopes for 2019 especially with the release delay. Doesn't seem like anything to get excited over though I will hold off on judging it till I have used it for a few weeks. But the biggest disappointment is going subscription. And before people start replying with "the classic version license" just read Mark's statements again, "for the time being", so it won't be long before Sketchup is following the Autodesk empire's footprints. I would of rather had them double or triple the yearly maintenance fee. So where to go from here? Guess now would be a good time for some developers to come up with a Blender addon that at least kinda mimicked SU especially with the 2.8 release. I would buy it.

Dave R · 6 Feb 2019, 03:30

@unknownuser said:

I have 2018, with the maintenance license still in effect. I have downloaded 2019. It requests a license and an authorization code. Before I would copy the license from the previous version. This time 2019 says it is not a valid license.

There's never been a case where you would enter your license for the previous version in the licensing fields for a new one. Nothing has changed regarding that. They have already said they will be sending e-mails in the next day or so out to those who have current maintenance agreements providing new serial numbers and keys. If you can't wait that long, you can go to the website and get the license info directly

@unknownuser said:

So do I to buy another 2019 license or am I doing something wrong. I just want the classic, not interested in the $600 program.

No. You don't need to buy another license. You can continue with what they now call the Classic license. You'll get SketchUp 2019 with a perpetual license.

@unknownuser said:

So help if you can.

I tried. I hope that helps to clarify.

@unknownuser said:

So DaveR do you remember when the bowlers came into style?

I ain't quite that old. I do remember the time ThomThom was trying to get them to have a comeback, though.

juju · 6 Feb 2019, 07:46

@pbacot said:

The above referenced blog says they've made SketchUp "faster".

yeah, I saw that too, I would love to know what/how things were made faster and if it has been quantified / qualified

rogalxxx · 6 Feb 2019, 10:26

They made shadows faster. It seems like it does not recalculate shadows when rotating view. No ora a short delay waiting for them to reappear.

I have my license valid till the end of 2020 but I did not recieve updated license. Keep waiting or should I do something?

juju · 6 Feb 2019, 10:47

@rogalxxx said:

I have my license valid till the end of 2020 but I did not recieve updated license. Keep waiting or should I do something?

go to licence manager section on their website, enter licence details with your e-mail, a new serial will be sent

sketch3d.de · 6 Feb 2019, 10:59

@juju said:

go to licence manager section on their website...

besides having bought by a reseller who will then deliver the license data of rev. 2019 to the registered email address in a few hours/days.

Khai · 6 Feb 2019, 11:23

Hmm new license areas aside, not to impressed with only minor adjustments to the program and minor feature adds.

Have to see how it goes...

dedmin · 6 Feb 2019, 12:36

We know the future, even we try to fool ourself SketchUP WEB -> Subscription Only -> Sketchup WEB Pro. Imagine the future where everything is on subscription only! The big corporations own everything and we are just subscribers! And all this push to the cloud is in line with this strategy - take full control over the tools and the data!

rv1974 · 6 Feb 2019, 13:13

Is there some way to disable this damn welcome window?

Box · 6 Feb 2019, 13:18

Window/Preferences/General untick Show welcome window.

Pixero · 6 Feb 2019, 14:07

My checkbox is grey.

Box · 6 Feb 2019, 14:10

@pixero said:

My checkbox is grey.

I'd guess that simply means you haven't taken up the option of a subscription or classic license. So at the moment you are running a trial version.
Once you add a license the welcome screen option will become available, just like past versions.

slbaumgartner · 6 Feb 2019, 14:26

@ntxdave said:

it appears that the dashed lines works in a way that all the sages tell us not to do.
Hope someone can show me that I am wrong!!

You are mostly right but partially wrong.

Indeed, the new dashed lines are implemented via layers. There are some issues with this method. If you set individual edges to use a dashed line layer, yes, you will violate the standard advice to use only Layer0 for individual edges, with all of the same potential issues as before the dashed line option. This visual effect has no impact on whether edges interact with other geometry. If you set a group to use a layer with dashes enabled, all the edges inside that group will receive the same dash pattern, which might not be what you wanted and so will force you to create additional nested groups based on dash pattern.

However, you don't need to violate the advice to always leave Layer0 active. You can change the layer of any geometry after it is drawn without making that layer active. Also, you can toggle an existing layer between solid and various dashed patterns after the fact and everything that uses it will follow suit.

rv1974 · 6 Feb 2019, 14:42

@rogalxxx said:

They made shadows faster. It seems like it does not recalculate shadows when rotating view. No ora a short delay waiting for them to reappear.

I have my license valid till the end of 2020 but I did not recieve updated license. Keep waiting or should I do something?

I didn't feel significant speed gain. There IS adaptive degradation while orbiting (WITH shadows off). When orbit stops, shadows get back after some delay. Everything as usual. Unfortunately there is no built-in FPS counter to objectively estimate the improvement (if any)
Small Doh! moment: if the very first shadow calculation takes say 8 sec, the following shadow toggling take much less (~1-2sec).

rv1974 · 6 Feb 2019, 15:45

The only good thing about SU2019 is I finally made myself to install all plugins from scratch).
Boy it was hard. Approx 160+ .rbzs , one working day. Last time I did it was decades ago.

Box · 6 Feb 2019, 15:54

Using sketchucation plugin store and extension warehouse I installed roughly the same number in about 30 minutes. The ones from elsewhere took a few minutes more.

Pixero · 6 Feb 2019, 16:06

@box said:

@pixero said:

My checkbox is grey.

I'd guess that simply means you haven't taken up the option of a subscription or classic license. So at the moment you are running a trial version.
Once you add a license the welcome screen option will become available, just like past versions.

I haven't got a new license yet. Well, I got an upgraded serial ( or was that one for 2018?) but I also need a verification code. How do I get that?

rv1974 · 6 Feb 2019, 16:36

@box said:

Using sketchucation plugin store and extension warehouse I installed roughly the same number in about 30 minutes. The ones from elsewhere took a few minutes more.

Yeah I know.. But deciding what to recycle\keep takes lots of extra time, many plugins had its alternatives.
BTW I compared opening times 2018 vs 2019: 1min54sec vs 1min38sec. It's hard to tell exactly what contributed more, 1019 optimizaton or plugin cleaning

sketch3d.de · 6 Feb 2019, 16:56

@pixero said:

I haven't got a new license yet. Well, I got an upgraded serial ( or was that one for 2018?) but I also need a verification code. How do I get that?

via the SketchUp 'License Manager ' or the supplier of your license.

The serial no of SUP v2019 needs to start with an "U".