Animator and VRay

filibis

Hi Fredo,
I can confirm that camera shaking happens in Vray output with default settings (MP4,MPG,AVI,GIF) but it's fine with 'Natural' rendering.

fredo6

@filibis said:

Hi Fredo,
I can confirm that camera shaking happens in Vray output with default settings (MP4,MPG,AVI,GIF) but it's fine with 'Natural' rendering.

So this must be related to Vray processing. I made some tests, but with my models and do not get the jerky effect. Actually Animator juts calls the Vray API, so it does not control what VRay does.

Maybe you can PM me the model, so that I try.

Fredo

fredo6

As you may have noticed, Animator was no longer compatible with VRay 3.6 (but was for VRay 3.4).

I updated the code to support VRay 3.6. You just need to upgrade to LibFredo6 8.0c (no need to change Animator).

This new version allows to start the rendering with VRay. HOWEVER, I noticed that there might be a freeze of Vray and Sketchup after rendering a number of frames.

I am in contact with Chaos Group about that.

So, if this happens to you, please advise in this Thread.

Fredo

Schuppe

Hi Fredo
Five month since your last post. I love to work with Animator since 3 weeks ( i am scratching the surface for now ). I render with ambient occlusion and no problems. Its okay but with v ray it would make lot more fun.
Few days ago i gave v-ray 3.6 a chance to render a 200 frame animation. After ca.30 frames its frozen. I expected that but there was a little hope it would do the job.
Is there hope for the future that chaos group can/want/will fix that problem?
Or is it a dead end with v ray 3.6 or can you do something on your software-side?

Schuppe

offtopic
( i am struggling with the Positioner save/load. What the hell is the correct USE of this two buttons and theyre managements. I´ve read and seen all about it and finally dont understand- but this is another story, lol - for now i dont touch this buttons and work without them ...like a lot of other users i strongly believe)

fredo6

@Schuppe

For Vray 3.6, I did not get any feedback from Chaos Group. Currently the integration with VRay is based on their existing API for static rendering, and thus suffers from some limitations and problems when used in sequence on a large number of rendering jobs.

As a general statement, there is little traction concerning Animation plugins in Sketchup (not just Animator by the way), and thus this is not a primary target for rendering software. The Reverse method where the rendering software manages the animation is also supported by Animator via its API, but requires some work. Only Thea has implemented it.

The only thing that I will do in a coming release is to enable partial regeneration of frames, so that hopefully, the video can be completed, even in several passes.

Regarding the Positioner: The concept is to save the positions of all objects in the model under a given name and be able to recall later these positions. So one icon is for for Save, the other is for Load. The information is stored in the model. In essence, this is independent from Animator itself. I introduced Positioners as a safety net in case the animation is messed up (bug or other issues). So it is advised to save a clean position of objects once, before playing with Animator.

In the new version 2.0, I have merged all management operations related to Positioners under one single icon and dialog box, where you can load, save, delete, change name and replace positioners.

Fredo

Schuppe

Thanks Fredo for your precise answer, i appreciate this.
The Chaos Group is a company and sketchup/Animator users are potential customers of their products. If i send a email to them, nothing will happen. But if the comunity start
a, lets say " Online-Petition " and lots of people protect/sign this and send it to Bulgaria, maybe they hear us and think about it to implement a reverse method or even more.
Dont know how to set up such a "online-petition".
But maybe some of the persons who are reading my post could help.
I think its worth a try.....
Thanks for now Fredo
Have a nice day

Schuppe

dihe

Hi there,
I prepare whole animation. view port size is 1541x891 px. When I made it smaller evtyhing is OK but when i made it 1920x1080 all frames are render but file want save. Have you any idea why, and how to fix it?

fredo6

@dihe said:

Hi there,
I prepare whole animation. view port size is 1541x891 px. When I made it smaller evtyhing is OK but when i made it 1920x1080 all frames are render but file want save. Have you any idea why, and how to fix it?

Can you try the Test Image button, to see if the file is generated

Fredo

dihe

unfortunately when I test render stop

When I use material override evrything is OK, and render in HD is done.

Btw. I change in VRay asset editor higher resolution then 1920x1080

dihe

I made test on slower PC borh have Vray 3.6.03 first SKP 2018 secound SKP2017. On slower animator/vray only build light chach and want't render. On faster I made a few more tests and even I made slower resolution test render stop in 3/4. Maybe it is timeout? Have you any idea how to fix it?
I don't know why it render scene correctly with material override? Maybe some kind of material crush vraya. But in normal work evrything is OK.
Thank you in advanced.
Jarek

dihe

Highest resolution which finished correctly is 1270x714px. If 1280x720 is setting up vray leave one squere with no rendered pixels... if resolution grow numbers of not rendered pixel is higher...
Btw. If I setup in Animator 1270x714px the resolution in vray asset editor also change. But when i made it 1920x1080 resolution in asset editor didn't change...

snop2205

Hello Fredo!
Thank you for all your Hard work!
I have the same problem with the plugin as dihe have.
The computer stops in the middle of rendering at high resolution and does not save the image.
in low-resolution the computer finishes rendering and saves
Is there a time out for each render?

snop2205

@fredo6 said:

@dihe said:

Hi there,
I prepare whole animation. view port size is 1541x891 px. When I made it smaller evtyhing is OK but when i made it 1920x1080 all frames are render but file want save. Have you any idea why, and how to fix it?

Can you try the Test Image button, to see if the file is generated

Fredo

Hello Fredo!
Thank you for all your Hard work!
I have the same problem with the plugin as dihe have.
The computer stops in the middle of rendering at high resolution and does not save the image.
in low-resolution the computer finishes rendering and saves
Is there a time out for each render?

fredo6

For info, this was due to a time out set for VRay at 2 minutes for rendering.

With LibFredo6 v8.5f, I have increased the time to 10 minutes.

Fredo

dihe

Hi Fredo,
could you add rendering exact frame fe. 165,166,175...

I have problem because now I need to render fram in "secounds" time, and somtimes when I render something simultaneously with animation render I have time out and freame wan't save.

Thank you in advanced

Immortalis

I have a problem with rendering with vray.
When I render an animation, it never lets it finish the rendering. After prepass 1of1 is finished, and actual rendering should start, animator just ends the rendering of that frame and continues on another frame. And happens for every frame, until it is stuck on one frame, and after that frame is finished rendering, another frame can't start render.

How to solve this?
Thanks

pejot11

Hello Fredo,

thank you for this great extension.
Is it possible to set the time out higher than 10 minutes?
I would like to render in higher resolution, but every time
a frame needs more than 10 minutes this frame is not saved.

Thank you.

pejot

williamj

Hi Fredo6,

Love your work firstly. Your extensions are really useful.

Can I echo the same as a couple of people on here? I'm using SU2018 and Vray 3.6(something)

Im trying to render an animation where the frames take longer than 10 mins. Is there a way to change the timeout manually, or, is there a reason why were limited to 10 mins?
Being able to stop a big render and start again at the exact frame that it left off would be amazing, is there a way to do this?

Keep up the good work and thank you again.

Macon

Bonjour

Je viens de découvrir ce qu'il était possible de faire. Je trouve cela fantastique, un grand merci à tous ceux qui ont pris le temps de faire une chose pareille!

Une petite question cependant: est il possible de réaliser l'animation d'animator à un moment précis d'une animation de scènes Sketchup? Par exemple Lors d'une visite virtuelle d'une maison, nous traversons un couloir (scènes SU ) avant d'arriver devant une porte qui s'ouvre (animation Animator) et continuons la visite (scène SU). En passant le tout dans Vray....

Un grand merci à tous ceux qui pourront me répondre!

Cordialement

fredo6

@macon said:

Une petite question cependant: est il possible de réaliser l'animation d'animator à un moment précis d'une animation de scènes Sketchup? Par exemple Lors d'une visite virtuelle d'une maison, nous traversons un couloir (scènes SU ) avant d'arriver devant une porte qui s'ouvre (animation Animator) et continuons la visite (scène SU). En passant le tout dans Vray....

This is a feature that is planned. Actually, I introduced the concept of 'Visitor' in earlier versions, but this needs a lot more work to make it usable. SO it is deactivated for the time being.

Fredo