SketchUp 2018

juju

Does anyone have the ETA for SketchUp 2018? SU2017 was released 7 November 2016, so I'm guessing any time in the next month probably...

cotty

You will never get such a date because it's against Trimbles philosophy. Extrapolated from the past few year, it will probably be released before 2019...

filibis

According to this article: Release Notes

@unknownuser said:

SketchUp 2017 : November 07, 2016
SketchUp 2016 : November 17, 2015
SketchUp 2015 : November 03, 2014

Simple arithmetic mean and my guess for SketchUp 2018 : November 09, 2017

cotty

Sorry, but it will be the 13.11.:

rv1974

Those skp junkies hehe

Box

Now that you have worked out the date, can we take bets on how many minutes after it is released that the first person will complain about it?

Rich O Brien

2min 5 secs

rv1974

I can predict main feature: brand new and awesome 8 in 201x title.

juju

@rv1974 said:

I can predict main feature: brand new and awesome 8 in 201x title.

yes, but if you turn the 8 on its side it is the symbol for infinity, which is what symbolizes what you can do** with SketchUp

**** as long as you keep to a fairly low poly model, properly modeled and organised**

Pixero

I heard from a local reseller that SU 2018 would be out in november and would probably make more people happy than the last version. Sounds good...

juju

@pixero said:

I heard from a local reseller that SU 2018 would be out in november and would probably make more people happy than the last version. Sounds good...

I hope that there will be noteworthy features.

From the SU2018 wishlist thread, this is what I hope for:

I wish the layers I've set up in SU (as per the pages visibility setup) would translate verbatim to LO, which then would be able to export those (together with the additional ones created in LO) to DWG/DXF, ending up with a DWG/DXF like we're used to in the construction industry. This would probably mean a better layer manager in LO as well.
I wish that LO would import DWG/DXF, without losing any information, so I can do overlays and coordinate.

There are more things, but this is at the top for me, other things I can get by with for the time being.

Pixero

As I rarely never uses LO I hope to see some great new SU features added.

Hieru

So, it won't be long until we find out if Trimble have decided to shift to a subscription model.

juju

@hieru said:

So, it won't be long until we find out if Trimble have decided to shift to a subscription model.

If that is the case, it would be sad indeed. I detest subscription software.

Hieru

Same here. I just hope that there was a strong negative response to their questionnaire and have decided to leave things as they are for now.

Pixero

Same with me.
I think Affinity Photo is a great example of a new pro app that succeeds without subscription.
And even makes that a great selling point compared to competition (Adobe).

Ben Ritter

@hieru said:

So, it won't be long until we find out if Trimble have decided to shift to a subscription model.

But isn't it already, since Trimble would like an additional $120/year to maintain support and future updates?

juju

@ben ritter said:

@hieru said:

So, it won't be long until we find out if Trimble have decided to shift to a subscription model.

But isn't it already, since Trimble would like an additional $120/year to maintain support and futurew updates?

No. The current licence is perpetual, maintenance and support is to enable you to upgrade to newer versions within that period. You can keep on using your latst version until such time as other factors force you to upgrade or abandon.

Ben Ritter

@juju said:

@ben ritter said:

@hieru said:

So, it won't be long until we find out if Trimble have decided to shift to a subscription model.

But isn't it already, since Trimble would like an additional $120/year to maintain support and futurew updates?

No. The current licence is perpetual, maintenance and support is to enable you to upgrade to newer versions within that period. You can keep on using your latst version until such time as other factors force you to upgrade or abandon.

So for maintain maintenance and support, you still have to pay for major upgrades?

slbaumgartner

The main difference in a subscription scheme is that if you let your subscription lapse, the software ceases to run at all! In SketchUp's permanent license scheme you just lose support and upgrade to the next version. The software continues to run as is. As a result, there are a lot of people out there still using (for example) SketchUp v8 because it was the last version without the no-commercial-use restriction in the license for free/Make.

I also despise subscription licensed software. From what I can see it is nothing more than a mechanism to keep sucking money out of your wallet even if they have added/fixed nothing that affects you. The big guys went to this when it became apparent that people were no longer slavishly updating to every new release - because the vendors ran out of new things to add that were valuable to more than a specialized subgroup of users, or started making changes that were just "tomayto" vs "tomahto".

Frankly, there are enough long-outstanding bugs in SketchUp that the team could work on them to make a new release without adding any more features at all!