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    • Chris FullmerC Offline
      Chris Fullmer
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      • pbacotP Offline
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        I suppose there could be problems with this (allowing a default setting always replace). I've never seen it. What usually happens is that I forget to see if the box is ticked and have to do it over. I guess I often make components from selections that have non-selected touching elements. I always want to replace the selection. I never saw a reason not to want this, but I keep getting caught up with the little box. Make it more prominent at least!

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        • Mike AmosM Offline
          Mike Amos
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          I select ALL of the attached geometry with no dependencies or attachments, sometimes the thing will be replaced and sometimes not. The problem is the variation in behaviour so I would like to be able to do as has been suggested is the norm, rather than have to go bakcwards and forwards with multiple goes at doing ONE thing, create a component.

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          • JQLJ Offline
            JQL
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            I always have to create the same component twice because of this feature. I always forget that tiny check box...

            At least there should be an optional default behaviour. There could be an option in model info/components. Alternatively if you check that tick box once then it would be the default option, until you unchecked it again (never for me of course).

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            • thomthomT Offline
              thomthom
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              I agree, not replacing is the rare exception in my own experience. I'd like to see it on by default.

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              • Mike AmosM Offline
                Mike Amos
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                Apparently it IS set by default, at least according to Chris on the team (now). After setting up profiles for a group or component and then finding that the accuracy settings are inadequate too, I am at the stage of those of us who need to move on from sketchup (and then some). I find it remarkable that basic functionality like accuracy of scale and movement is so hit and miss. How this translates is that each line and arc intersection have a 'tolerance' that more or less guatantees failure of components/group from profiles/arcs/lines. I know, there are people here who will swear they have no issue with this and good luck to them. I just wish they would not try to stick their experiences down my throat as they are not relevent. Different methodology is the probable culprit and this is because there are so many different methods of getting to the same so called result. I do not take personally, nor do intend any personal insult just please respect the experience of others may not reflect yours. Have a good week.

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                • Chris FullmerC Offline
                  Chris Fullmer
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                  Hi Mike, do you have an example that shows where you are having some accuracy issues? I'm one of those who has found SU to be easier to be accurate in, than any other 3d modeler I've worked with (admittedly only a small handful). I'm always curious to see what are other people's methodologies. Any example model, or video would be appreciated.

                  As for the original problem, I'm also still interested in your issue here. Like I said, that check box is turned on by default. But it turns itself off if SU thinks you might not have everything selected. So there are scenarios where it turns itself off on purpose. Arguably, that behavior is not desirable (I'd vote against it myself). But that is the functionality that the team implemented many releases ago (and haunts us to this day). BUT, it sounds like you might be having issues that start getting into what might be a bug. Perhaps you've got a model that has a glitch in it that is causing that tickbox to be turned off, even in times when it should be on by default. I'd be grateful if you found a model that showed that incorrect functionality so I could log it as a bug, or use it to make a case for changing that behavior of that check box.

                  So if you get a chance, any info you could offer would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Mike!

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                  • Mike AmosM Offline
                    Mike Amos
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                    Something that might help would be the ability to choose where the lines or curve start/end at. A common problem is where I want to end a line/curve at the end of another line/curve and as I am clicking the button to finish, the end point moves, or I find the end point wanting to snap to the green/red/blue alignment instead of where I want it to go. It is also a nnoying whenaccuracy is insufficient to place the start finish point properly.

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                    • Mike AmosM Offline
                      Mike Amos
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                      Just a quick View of AN accuracy problem. The arc start point was placed carefully, waiting for the green point suggesting an end point has been selected, and it turns out not to have done so.


                      The arc (top most arc here) missing the point.

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                      • TIGT Offline
                        TIG Moderator
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                        @Mike

                        Can you post a screen-shot of your Model Info > Units dialog.
                        If you have 'Enable length snapping' ticked your picked point might jump by the fraction of an inch to that alternative location.
                        It is best to have that NOT ticked.
                        What accuracy do you work to normally ?

                        TIG

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                        • Mike AmosM Offline
                          Mike Amos
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                          Thanks Tig, it was as you say, selected. I usually work to 1/4" for architectural but 1/64" when the model is a plane or car. I still find at times that the line would be somewhat different from my input length so it is still not right by any means but I understand nothing is perfect under any sun.

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