SketchUp 2013 Gripes & Bitchin' ONLY ;)
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@arail1 said:
Completely off off off topic (the phrase suggests an off Broadway play with a lot of nudity) - do you just build the skateboard parks or do you skate also?
both.. but i was never good enough to turn pro so i've found other ways to work in the industry
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[quote="jason_maranto"]Alright, so hopefully I clearly established why I think this “upgrade” fails... Lets look at what you can do about it.
First off, don't “upgrade” – if you are free version user don't pay the $590... and if you are an existing Pro user don't pay the $95.
Jason, well thought out and said. I have been an avid user and proponent of sketchup for some time now and was also dismayed at the immediacy of their annual subscription policy. Agree also that the changes/improvements over the past several years (I have used it since SU6) would not have amounted to much without the efforts and skills of the user community in producing plugins to 'get the job done'. What's more, the 3D warehouse is what it is because of the efforts and generosity of this same community.
Should this be their intent for what is generally a loyal customer base then I would urge one and all to lobby Autodessys to get busy with a 'layout' equivalent for Bonzai 3D, which out of the box is similar in price and like Sketchup on steroids. If they were to achieve this, it would result in an enormous migration of 3d modellers to their platform. At the least it would put the pressure back on Trimble to lift their game re their customers.
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Oh FFS... Thank god I've kept that older installer of SketchUp8 around... Wanting to keep everything I have on hand up-to-date, I've just recently tried to update my freeware sketchup to this new sketchup2013.. and to my surprise..
The bloody thing is now a Trial-Ware?
Seriously?! A trial-ware.. I thought I followed the link to the freeware version, same as I've always done since SketchUp 6 and 7... but to my surprise, no matter how hard I've skimmed over Trimble's site looking for the freeware SU.. I dunt find any!! 
Needless to say I've un-installed SU2013 and I'm reinstalling SU8, compatible with all of my older plug-ins like Fredo, and others..
I thought SketchUp was supposed to be 3D for everyone.. for the masses? How is it for the masses when it's a trial-ware that last only a week.. or I don't know... as soon as I saw SU2013 was trial-ware I uninstalled it no sooner had I launched it to see what all the fuss was about.
Correct me if I'm wrong about this, everyone, please? But I thought there ALWAYS was a freeware version of SketchUp to go hand in hand with the Pro version since the freeware was thought to be more suitable for the hobbyist and students alike, such as myself, a hobbyist..
Seriously, I think someone has made a dreadful error here removing the freeware version.
Pardon me gents, but I'm back to reinstalling SU8 and all of my plug-ins. XD
End rant.. LooksSketchy2Me
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The v2013 'pro-trial' expires and becomes the free version [aka 'make'], it's little different from the v8 but now you don't need to uninstall the expired pro and install free the reversion i automatic... [but there ARE some notable licensing differences...]
Many v8 plugins will continue to work OK in v2012.
Those that were found to need some tweaking have been upgraded.
Suitable versions of most available plugins are available from the SCF PluginStore for download and installation into v2013 [or v8!]
It's recommended that you install the latest versions of all plugins, especially when changing to a new version of any app... -
Oh I see now. ^ ^ Perhaps I've spoken a bit too soon then. Very well I shall reinstall the newer SU2013 and give it a go, but for sanity sake and the sake of keeping an option open, I shall keep the older SU8 in a different directory for easy access and use. =D
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I cannot seem to change the FOV from deg to mm in the osx 2013 version. Is anyone else having this problem ? I prefer working in mm rather than degrees. I can write mm in the window but after hitting return it defaults to degrees. Is there a workaround for this ? Many thanks in advance.
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@lookssketchy2mexd said:
I shall keep the older SU8 in a different directory for easy access and use. =D
That's the default anyway. New major SketchUp version always install independently from previous versions and run side by side.
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@chedda said:
I cannot seem to change the FOV from deg to mm in the osx 2013 version. Is anyone else having this problem ? I prefer working in mm rather than degrees. I can write mm in the window but after hitting return it defaults to degrees. Is there a workaround for this ? Many thanks in advance.
I've not seen this. typing "mm" or "deg" changes it permanently for me. Maybe a plugin interfering?
Or ... do you enter decimals? Maybe there's a conflict of comma vs period on your system? -
What is the correct method that is working for you ? is it mm. & return ? Thanks for the answer Thom.
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I activate the Zoom tool and type something like either "22mm" or "40deg" and then press Return. Always worked and I've had no experience in a change between SU8 and SU2013.
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The only non extensions warehouse plugins i am using are round corner and the latest maxwell build. Another bitch is the tiny addition & minus icons using the selection shift & alt tool !
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@mcpcorey said:
I upgraded to SU 2013 yesterday, and at least for the moment, I am going to call it a Huge MISTAKE !. (sure wish I had visited this thread before upgrading) I Just completed my first model with SU 2013, (probably have 12 - 14 hours time invested in it) I exported a .dae colada file, as I normally did in SU 8, so I can render the model in Lumion 3, only to find out that a collada file exported from SU 2013 causes lumion to immediately crash! WTF Trimble? This is not just frustrating, it is infuriating, and entirely unacceptable, when you have a PAYING client waiting for finished renditions, in order to secure the sale of a $60,000.00 project. And of course, I cannot load the SU 2013 model back into SU 8, I will have to completely rebuild the model in SU 8, so I can render in Lumion, and HOPE & PRAY that in the interim, a competitor does not secure the project first... I Could lose my MAIN source of income over this. (Ok I am through venting now, well actually not, I have a list in my head of all the other Gripes I have about the functionality of SU 2013, compared to SU 8, but the above described problem is my current BIGGIE, and may have just lost me thousands of $$$$$$ of future work)
Has anyone else had problems with collada files exported from SU 2013, that won't open, and or crashes of other applications?...
Any known work arounds ?
Am I doing something wrong ?
I use windows 7 pro 64 bit
SU 2013 pro (just ungraded from SU 8 pro)
and I render in Lumion 3.1.1
Never had a problem doing this with SU 8, or with collada files exported from it.
I even tried opening the collada file in the old lumion free version, and also got an immediate crash! I have been using lumion since the first week of initial release, and this is the first problem I have ever had with it, I can only attribute this problem to SU 2013!Corey
I had the same problem. Very infuriating. I discovered it was something I downloaded from SU Library. A kitchen sink. Very detailed models cause Lumion to crash. I erased the sink from the model and Lumion worked. When things are going right you feel you are master of the universe and pat yourself on the back for being so clever (well I do) but when something goes wrong with your software it's like life has suddenly no meaning.... you shout at your wife and kids and kick the dog. When you discover the problem and overcome it.... your back on top of the world.... and then try to explain your woes to your wife.... but, too late... your in the dog house.
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Barry,
I very much doubt the dog would too happy about sharing the dog house with you after kicking him! Still dogs are very forgiving little buddies
Mike
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How have Sketch-up managed to do so little with so much in layout baffles me. I was using Mini-cad 3 back in 1996 on Cinema G.A's, when you turned all the seats on it performed like Layout does now with about a 10th of the geometry and over 15 years of computer advancement - I had a 90khz 7200 mac - until Layout I hadn't seen such slow performance, spinning wheel of death, amazing !
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@congellous said:
How have Sketch-up managed to do so little with so much in layout baffles me. I was using Mini-cad 3 back in 1996 on Cinema G.A's, when you turned all the seats on it performed like Layout does now with about a 10th of the geometry and over 15 years of computer advancement - I had a 90khz 7200 mac - until Layout I hadn't seen such slow performance, spinning wheel of death, amazing !
I would like to update this as since I sold the macbook pro and switched to Windows running 2013 on a desktop machine, I have had very few issue's and I'm fully best friends with Sketchup again, Hurrah !
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First of all i would like to say " THANK YOU SKETCHUCATION " for all the help i got from here. I am from a country where after completing you architectural Degree and you'll earn 150$-250$ for at least 2 year after your graduation. and in my country there are no authorized training nothing, so i would thanks to Sketchucation again for there contribution there plugins and all.
onething more i would like to say is that i havent donated a single penny till now but its not because i dont want to its because that i dont use any debit card or paypal type service and wont be using in future coz BANKS ARE EVIL. but i can assure you that i wanted to Donate so many times to the authors of amazing plugins . you guys really deserve it. and if donation was with western union i would have gladly given 20$ to 30$ in a month or two.and about sketchup 2013 what i hate is that i cant manage my toolbar and cant save it, and all toolbar icons are changed and i hate it so i am still using SU8
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@imabzeous said:
and about sketchup 2013 what i hate is that i cant manage my toolbar and cant save it, and all toolbar icons are changed and i hate it so i am still using SU8
Please tell Trimble your feelings.
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Time for 2014 G&B Dan.
This is becoming a cult I think. -
I only made this thread so people could bitch without starting a flamewar in the other thread.
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