Your Ideas for SketchUp 2014
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This isn't a wishlist
The SU9 wishlist was for 2013 so why are you looking for that?
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yes, i know... but it looks like it's becoming a wishlist now
@rich o brien said:
The SU9 wishlist was for 2013 so why are you looking for that?
i meant you can just rename it, because the content, the requests in the new thread will be almost the same... 99,9% of the wishes in the SU9/2013 thread haven't been fulfilled in the 2013 release so i think the "new" wishes will be the old ones...
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To be honest who reads through pages wishes?
We should use proper polling and surveys.
I'll look into it.
My point here is if you want to speak to SU Boss you'll need to use their forums.
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@rich o brien said:
My point here is if you want to speak to SU Boss you'll need to use their forums.
or as Pixero suggests
@pixero said:
What if Sketchucation did a petition with a few most wanted requests that we can agree on and all member who wants can "sign his name" on it?
Might be interesting to see what actual numbers we can get to vote.I think that if we do it this way we would keep the integrity of this SketchUcation Forum
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@unearthed said:
Fix the thousands of toolbars in registry issue that we all have to deal with.
That's been fixed in SU2013 when they replaced the toolbar system.
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@ Malaga Juan
Is not that what I suggested in my previous post?
An in-house poll/survey for members with the results visible to SU Team members if they want it?
We are now looking at various add-ons for the site to enable proper surveys/polls to be added with better means of display info than the current forum poll (which is pretty crude).
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@rich o brien said:
@ Malaga Juan
An in-house poll/survey for members with the results visible to SU Team members if they want it?sí
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@arail1 said:
@solo said:
Just dawned on me watching both threads that maybe it is me, I want stuff that most folk do not, like better UV tools, more poly's, quads, etc.
Gonna have to give Blender a real go.
Or MODO
I came to the exact same conclusions, and Modo is exactly where I've been once I ran out of caring about SketchUp 9 -- and I'm not regretting the decision at all.
For the record I refuse to participate in any more SketchUp wishlist events, and especially in anything "darling" is involved in... they know exactly what is wrong and have known for many years, but they choose to ignore it.
Best,
Jason. -
No offense Jason, but I think we get it. You don't want SU any more and you found better softwares. You don't need to post in every single thread to tell us about your personal feeling.
You don't like SU, or where SU is heading, or SU's team. Ok, so be it. Here it's SketchUcation, we come here to discuss about SU, not your feelings.
I don't have any problem with people giving their thoughts about SU, but you did plenty of time, and you're just repeating yourself. You found greener grass, move on
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For the record I hadn't posted here for almost 3 weeks -- so I think you are being extremely over dramatic saying "I post in every single thread" and acting like I am somehow ruining the experience of using this forum.
Also, for what it is worth I only responded to what a few other "SketchUp" users had to say in this thread... so not really like I started anything here either.
If you don't like it you are free to ignore me... but you'd better stick your head really far down in the sand if you want to ignore reality.
Best,
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@jason_maranto said:
I came to the exact same conclusions, and Modo is exactly where I've been once I ran out of caring about SketchUp 9 -- and I'm not regretting the decision at all.
Best,
Jason.What I want in MODO is SketchUp like snapping. Snapping in MODO is ridiculous and I'm stunned that Luxology hasn't done anything about it - even though long, angry threads regularly appear on the forum about this issue.
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Snapping in shetchup is not so hot either, to have a situation where a line end snaps to 'somewhere near' another point is ludicrous too. I think we need to be able to choose where a snap is going, either to a point or along an oriented line or the end of another line/arc. The number of times the clipping curse occurs while trying to find out what is preventing a surface being formed is enough to draw blood.
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Personally, this is one of the selling points for me of form.z -- you have all the snapping power of SketchUp (and then some) but you can disable any and/or all of them whenever you need/want to... incredibly precise and powerful: http://www.formz.com/manuals/formz7/!SSL!/WebHelp/01090_Snapping.html
You won't typically find that type of snapping in any SubD modeler. SubD is a different way of thinking about making things (than standard surface modeling)... so it requires some adjustment.
Best,
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If I had the money for form z or an alternative I would have gone for that but the draw factor is the availability of a free version. Not forking out that kind of money for what is essentially a hobby/form of expression/creativity. Even bonzai 3d might have got the nod, if it had a cut down free version.
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I think the main thing i would like to see is just a better viewport performance on larger models........
Failing that UV tools would be good.
Regards
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@jason_maranto said:
Personally, this is one of the selling points for me of form.z -- you have all the snapping power of SketchUp (and then some) but you can disable any and/or all of them whenever you need/want to... incredibly precise and powerful: http://www.formz.com/manuals/formz7/!SSL!/WebHelp/01090_Snapping.html
You won't typically find that type of snapping in any SubD modeler. SubD is a different way of thinking about making things (than standard surface modeling)... so it requires some adjustment.
Best,
Jason.Generally I agree. The relation of the sub-d 'cage' to the visible screen representation complicates the issue of snapping. But the LWCad plugin for LightWave proves that the problem isn't insurmountable. What I wish modo would offer is snapping to the cage geometry as an option for the purposes of architectural modeling (where it's needed) and the ability to turn it off for organic modeling (where it's generally not needed). You can do this in MODO but only with an unnecessary number of clicks and adjustments. I'd like to be able to turn it on or off with one click like I can in Rhino.
Sorry BTW that this exchange is far off topic.
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@solo said:
Reading through the responses I believe I'm in an alternative universe, no wonder SU 2013 was such a let down if the users they are polling are pretty much noobs and casual users that do not even use SU as extensively as users on this forum.
Floating menus, sub layers, bring back Susan WTF? more than half the requests are for Layout, which should be a separate thread IMO. So do not hold your breath, SU 2014 will have Susan back and more Layout improvements only, oh they may add floating menus...
+1
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Actually, thinking about it, the price need not be zero but, a price more in keeping with the hobby user. Anything in the mega hundreds or more is beyond me as a hobby user.
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I use Sketchup every day in an architectural office.
I am on OSX.THE biggest issue and reason we look for alternatives to design with is....
The material panel is terrible, slow and unorganized. With a few dozens materials it already becomes unworkable. Nobody can find anything in the palette and assigning materials is so slow it takes up most of our modeling time.
I can assign hundreds of materials in Maxwell Studio in less than a few minutes. The same work would be impossible or days of work in SU. There is no other app in CAD that suffers from slowness in assigning materials. Looking at the discussions on how to improve SU I am always surprised that alls sorts of ideas come along but the most basic and needed improvement is ignored.The amount of frustration the material panel causes is my nr. 1 reason to realize Sketchup is not a professional tool. It also makes you wonder if any of the developers has any experience with Sketchup and how it is used at an office in a real life workflow.
If this problem alone could be solved I would already be more than happy. I can split models in two or three to speed up modeling but I can't split the material panel.
There are plenty other things we can think of but as long as Trimble ignores this issue we won't be here long enough to see our other wishes fullfilled.
Another thing that is very frustrating is the way this thread starts by saying that all sorts of improvements are on the table and that some will be done one day and other most likely never. That is not very transparent.
I rather know now if the material palette will remain as it is. Than we will move on as soon as we can and will advise our clients of whom there are many architects to forget about SU on a mac.
Francois
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