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    thomthom
    last edited by 3 Nov 2012, 14:42

    @smicha said:

    Could you reveal what is "architect tools" for? And when will it be released?

    It's the updated version of Plan Tools. I've promised to release it very soon - a while ago. 😳

    Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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      cotty
      last edited by 25 Nov 2012, 09:42

      I'm playing around and want to select only some vertices from the front. I know the options "ignore backfaces" and "select only visible", but I'm not able to achive the desired selection...?

      vertex_visible.jpg


      vertex_visible.skp

      my SketchUp gallery

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        pbacot
        last edited by 25 Nov 2012, 09:51

        I've run across the same thing and wasn't sure what to think about it.

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          cotty
          last edited by 25 Nov 2012, 09:58

          I've played a little more and noticed, that it depends on the soft radius: 30cm only selects front vertices, with 40cm the back vertices are selected too...

          my SketchUp gallery

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            cotty
            last edited by 25 Nov 2012, 10:44

            @cotty said:

            I've played a little more and noticed, that it depends on the soft radius: 30cm only selects front vertices, with 40cm the back vertices are selected too...

            Here are some variations...

            vertex_backface_visible2.jpg

            my SketchUp gallery

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              thomthom
              last edited by 25 Nov 2012, 21:11

              Ah, yes. Soft-selection is affected by proximity of the selected vertices - not connected distance. I have it on my list to implement a soft-selection that acts upon connected distance that would have solved your problems in this particular case. Unfortunately that doesn't help you now. 😞

              Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
              List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                panixia
                last edited by 25 Nov 2012, 22:03

                nice! i was here to do the same exact request because i just modeled an hanging cloth and found that having an option of "only connected" for soft selection would be really cool.. i know 3dstudio max has a sort of cloth simulator, but i find 3dsmax is.. how can i say.. a "bit more expensive" than your tool.. πŸ˜„

                oh.. and "merge to point" rules!!! go for it!

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                  opal
                  last edited by 26 Nov 2012, 00:14

                  would putting part of the model on a different layer and hiding it help to get only one surface's verts?

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                    cotty
                    last edited by 26 Nov 2012, 06:20

                    @thomthom said:

                    Ah, yes. Soft-selection is affected by proximity of the selected vertices - not connected distance. I have it on my list to implement a soft-selection that acts upon connected distance that would have solved your problems in this particular case. Unfortunately that doesn't help you now. 😞

                    No (urgent) problem because I'm only playing around πŸ˜‰
                    Should a "Select only visible" does help anyway to reduce the selection?

                    @unknownuser said:

                    would putting part of the model on a different layer and hiding it help to get only one surface's verts?

                    Yes, a selection with no soft selection (r=0) and grouping these vertices for soft selection is a workaround...

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                      thomthom
                      last edited by 26 Nov 2012, 08:31

                      @unknownuser said:

                      would putting part of the model on a different layer and hiding it help to get only one surface's verts?

                      I was about to say no - but then gave it a second thought and tried it. And yes, it works. Hiding the geometry you don't want affected will prevent them from being affected by soft-selection. πŸ˜„
                      I think I might have to add that to the FAQ. Nice trick.

                      @cotty said:

                      Should a "Select only visible" does help anyway to reduce the selection?
                      No - it would only effect selected vertices - not the soft-selection.

                      Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                        pbacot
                        last edited by 26 Nov 2012, 10:03

                        Just grouping the faces on the far side protects them--or am I missing the point?

                        But you have to be sure your operation doesn't affect the boundary vertices or you'll have trouble getting the shape back together again.

                        MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                          thomthom
                          last edited by 26 Nov 2012, 10:16

                          @pbacot said:

                          Just grouping the faces on the far side protects them--or am I missing the point?

                          That is one possibility, yes. But as you mention - you might end up with not being able to merge the vertices again. Simply hiding the stuff you don't want affected solves it without having to modify the mesh.

                          Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                            d12dozr
                            last edited by 26 Nov 2012, 10:41

                            @thomthom said:

                            ...I have it on my list to implement a soft-selection that acts upon connected distance that would have solved your problems in this particular case...

                            πŸ‘ πŸ‘ I was also wishing for this a few days ago.

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                              pbacot
                              last edited by 26 Nov 2012, 11:11

                              OH, now I see! It somehow retains connection, even when your selection's along the boundary, but still doesn't include the hidden parts in the selection. Ingenious.

                              MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                                thomthom
                                last edited by 11 Dec 2012, 10:28

                                SCF Premium members can now buy Vertex Tools for a discounted price of 16$

                                Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                  pbacot
                                  last edited by 11 Dec 2012, 18:11

                                  Thanks TT. I already have it. How much for Bezier Surface?

                                  MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                                    thomthom
                                    last edited by 11 Dec 2012, 18:40

                                    Not sure what Bezier Surface will be priced at. But existing Vertex Tools customer will get a discount.

                                    Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                      pbacot
                                      last edited by 11 Dec 2012, 19:00

                                      Heh, just prodding. Can't be had for any price as yet. πŸ˜‰

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                                        Mistro11
                                        last edited by 11 Dec 2012, 20:04

                                        Just bought it!!! Great plugin TT! I think my arsenal of tools is pretty beefed up now. Thanks.

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                                          thomthom
                                          last edited by 11 Dec 2012, 20:16

                                          @pbacot said:

                                          Heh, just prodding. Can't be had for any price as yet. πŸ˜‰

                                          πŸ˜„ Yea. It's taking its time. At the moment I'm rewriting a piece of the core which require some larger changes affecting everything. Once it's complete it should allow me to work on the UI features and tools.

                                          Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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