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    • thomthomT Offline
      thomthom
      last edited by

      @john2 said:

      enabling open gl
      You mean Hardware Acceleration under Preferences?
      This looks like a graphic hardware or driver issue. What hardware do you have?

      Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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      • A Offline
        Aerilius
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        This looks like your hardware does not support"Fast Feedback". Try disabling it in Window β†’ Preferences β†’ OpenGL.
        Or update your graphcis driver and see if the upgrade improves fast feedback.

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        • john2J Offline
          john2
          last edited by

          @thomthom said:

          @john2 said:

          enabling open gl
          You mean Hardware Acceleration under Preferences?
          This looks like a graphic hardware or driver issue. What hardware do you have?

          yes, the hardware preferences in SU. my hardware specs are
          pentium d cpu, 2.8 GHz, MSI motherboard g4 mp26, 2gb ram.

          @aerilius said:

          This looks like your hardware does not support"Fast Feedback". Try disabling it in Window β†’ Preferences β†’ OpenGL.
          Or update your graphcis driver and see if the upgrade improves fast feedback.

          i downloaded the driver from the website. i have already specified earlier. all updates installed. even the printer driver is up to date. all the drivers downloaded a week ago from the manufacturer's website .the problem occurs after 3 hours or so. iv disabled open gl. lets see what happens.

          Sketchup Make 2017 (64-bit), Vray 4.0 , Windows 10 – 64 bit, corei7-8750H, 16GB RAM, Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB

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          • thomthomT Offline
            thomthom
            last edited by

            @john2 said:

            yes, the hardware preferences in SU. my hardware specs are
            pentium d cpu, 2.8 GHz, MSI motherboard g4 mp26, 2gb ram.

            You omitted the graphic card.

            @john2 said:

            i downloaded the driver from the website. i have already specified earlier. all updates installed.

            There could still be a graphic card / driver issue. It could be that even the latest drivers doesn't fix it. It could be that your graphic card doesn't support OpenGL that well.

            Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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            • john2J Offline
              john2
              last edited by

              @thomthom said:

              @john2 said:

              yes, the hardware preferences in SU. my hardware specs are
              pentium d cpu, 2.8 GHz, MSI motherboard g4 mp26, 2gb ram.

              You omitted the graphic card.

              @john2 said:

              i downloaded the driver from the website. i have already specified earlier. all updates installed.

              There could still be a graphic card / driver issue. It could be that even the latest drivers doesn't fix it. It could be that your graphic card doesn't support OpenGL that well.

              no external graphic card. in the control panel it says intel graphic media accelerator. on old PCs Su showed warning about incompatibility. Su ain't showing that message if i enable or disable Graphic acceleration. πŸ˜•

              Sketchup Make 2017 (64-bit), Vray 4.0 , Windows 10 – 64 bit, corei7-8750H, 16GB RAM, Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB

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              • BoxB Offline
                Box
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                Do you happen to have a wacom tablet, I've seen this problem with them and resetting the wacom preferences fixes it.

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                • thomthomT Offline
                  thomthom
                  last edited by

                  @john2 said:

                  no external graphic card. in the control panel it says intel graphic media accelerator. on old PCs Su showed warning about incompatibility. Su ain't showing that message if i enable or disable Graphic acceleration. πŸ˜•

                  That would be your problem then. Integrated cards often have poor support. Older Intel cards are known to be troublesome.
                  I recommend you pick up an nVidia card. They have solid OpenGL support.

                  Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                  • john2J Offline
                    john2
                    last edited by

                    @thomthom said:

                    @john2 said:

                    no external graphic card. in the control panel it says intel graphic media accelerator. on old PCs Su showed warning about incompatibility. Su ain't showing that message if i enable or disable Graphic acceleration. πŸ˜•

                    That would be your problem then. Integrated cards often have poor support. Older Intel cards are known to be troublesome.
                    I recommend you pick up an nVidia card. They have solid OpenGL support.

                    I'LL have to ask my boss then πŸ˜†

                    Sketchup Make 2017 (64-bit), Vray 4.0 , Windows 10 – 64 bit, corei7-8750H, 16GB RAM, Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB

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                    • thomthomT Offline
                      thomthom
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                      Indeed - anyone working with CAD and 3d needs a separate dedicated graphic card.

                      Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                      • hellnbakH Offline
                        hellnbak
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                        Whenever I encounter a problem like this I just do a Purge (the plugin) and it fixes it (even if a purge isn't needed). Don't know why, but it works for me. FWIW.

                        "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                        • john2J Offline
                          john2
                          last edited by

                          @hellnbak said:

                          Whenever I encounter a problem like this I just do a Purge (the plugin) and it fixes it (even if a purge isn't needed). Don't know why, but it works for me. FWIW.

                          you're saying using this plugin solves the problem?

                          http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?t=11758#p82552

                          Sketchup Make 2017 (64-bit), Vray 4.0 , Windows 10 – 64 bit, corei7-8750H, 16GB RAM, Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB

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                          • hellnbakH Offline
                            hellnbak
                            last edited by

                            @john2 said:

                            @hellnbak said:

                            Whenever I encounter a problem like this I just do a Purge (the plugin) and it fixes it (even if a purge isn't needed). Don't know why, but it works for me. FWIW.

                            you're saying using this plugin solves the problem?

                            http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?t=11758#p82552

                            No, I'm saying that it works for me. Whenever my computer starts to lag a bit, whether it's because of a texture-heavy model or having shadows turned on while orbiting a lot, whenever I run Purge it does fix the problem for me. Not permanently, but long enuf for me to continue my work, and purging only takes a few seconds. I'm no computer geek or SU guru, and like I said I don't know why it works, just thought I'd pass along something that might help someone else out.

                            "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                            • Dave RD Offline
                              Dave R
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                              John2, purging unused stuff from your SketchUp models is a good idea no matter what but a plugin is not going to fix hardware that isn't up to the task. Reducing the work your GPU has to do by leaving textures turned off and by limiting the number of edges and faces it has to process will help but at some point you'll need it to be able to handle those things.

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                              • hellnbakH Offline
                                hellnbak
                                last edited by

                                No Dave, I'm not saying that purging is a replacement for ensuring that your hardware is up to the task. All I'm saying is that when I'm working on a model and the textures start disappearing when I move or orbit it, or movement gets sluggish, even if I have changed nothing in the model and have done nothing since the last purge but move the model around a lot, purging does alleviate the problem. Not permanently, but certainly long enuf for me to get on with my work.

                                It works for me, and I just thought I would pass this along to possibly help John2 maybe get by until he does get his problem sorted out.

                                "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                                • Dave RD Offline
                                  Dave R
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                                  I wasn't disagreeing with you, Steve. You are absolutely correct. πŸ˜‰

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                                  • hellnbakH Offline
                                    hellnbak
                                    last edited by

                                    @dave r said:

                                    I wasn't disagreeing with you, Steve. You are absolutely correct. πŸ˜‰

                                    Thanks. Now can somebody explain to me how purging can do this when you've done nothing to the model but move it around?

                                    "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                                    • mitcorbM Offline
                                      mitcorb
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                                      [off:3vk1y28v]According to my research, your machine is tripping. πŸ’š[/off:3vk1y28v]

                                      I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                                      • john2J Offline
                                        john2
                                        last edited by

                                        @hellnbak said:

                                        No Dave, I'm not saying that purging is a replacement for ensuring that your hardware is up to the task. All I'm saying is that when I'm working on a model and the textures start disappearing when I move or orbit it, or movement gets sluggish, even if I have changed nothing in the model and have done nothing since the last purge but move the model around a lot, purging does alleviate the problem. Not permanently, but certainly long enuf for me to get on with my work.

                                        yeah that's happening to me too! πŸ˜‰ ditto

                                        Sketchup Make 2017 (64-bit), Vray 4.0 , Windows 10 – 64 bit, corei7-8750H, 16GB RAM, Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB

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