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  • P Offline
    Panga
    last edited by 6 Sept 2012, 14:32

    Yep, you can find it here...

    sample_circle.skp

    but you can reproduce it easily, this was done in a clean file. For the info, this happen with a circle of 48 sides in my file...but do not happen with a circle of 40 sides, happens with a 80 sides circle....

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      Panga
      last edited by 6 Sept 2012, 14:39

      Sorry SIR Pilou ๐Ÿ˜‰

      sample_circle_v6.skp

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        pilou
        last edited by 6 Sept 2012, 14:44

        the squaring of the circle! ๐Ÿ˜„
        and no saved in V6 format, I am disapointed! ๐Ÿ˜ฎ ๐Ÿ’š

        and curious I have not this problem with this measure and number of segments! ๐Ÿ˜ฎ


        square.skp

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        My Little site :)

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          Panga
          last edited by 6 Sept 2012, 14:54

          Thanks for the try Pilou, but the result change with the number of sides, and you square was in meter, my tests are in cm... Try with my file and with 48 sides in SU6 in order to see if it's related to SU version.

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            pilou
            last edited by 6 Sept 2012, 14:54

            Trop tard j'ai dรฉjร  envoyรฉ mon essai ๐Ÿ˜„

            Ah damned I took 44 segments ๐Ÿ˜ณ

            but same resul with 48 ๐Ÿ˜„
            Seems no problem ๐Ÿค“
            But maybe I don't see what I must see ? ๐Ÿ˜’


            sample_circle_v6_48.skp

            Frenchy Pilou
            Is beautiful that please without concept!
            My Little site :)

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              pilou
              last edited by 6 Sept 2012, 15:01

              previous test was in V7 ๐Ÿ’š
              Now in true V6

              Sorry I don't see nothing curious ๐Ÿ˜


              sample_circle_truev6_48.skp

              Frenchy Pilou
              Is beautiful that please without concept!
              My Little site :)

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              • T Offline
                thomthom
                last edited by 6 Sept 2012, 15:04

                Right, by the looks of it you're getting some triangulation in the new face that's too extreme. You see how it snaps down to the neighbour vertex instead of the apex? The distance there is very very small - under the SU limit. I'm guessing it's the triangulation algorythm misses that last piece because the points, or distances at that point is considered equal within SU's accuracy.

                CircleAccuracy.png

                It's somewhat odd that, at least on my machine, that the circle ends up exploded. And I'm getting some visual artifacts when trying to use tools afterwards. Until I pick a new style for the model that is...

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                  Gaieus
                  last edited by 6 Sept 2012, 15:10

                  Yes, it also explodes for me. And though when it's bigger, you can draw it normally, in this case drawing bigger and scaling down (the "usual" workaround) does not work either.

                  I do not get any special artefacts though. Can it be simply because of the miniature size?

                  Gai...

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                    Gaieus
                    last edited by 6 Sept 2012, 15:11

                    Purge?

                    Gai...

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                      pilou
                      last edited by 6 Sept 2012, 15:15

                      Ah ok I have reload your file
                      Same result than you

                      But Something I don't understand!
                      Why your file is so heavy for just 2 little rectangles + 2 circles !!!!!!! ๐Ÿ˜ฒ ๐Ÿ˜ฒ ๐Ÿ˜ฒ

                      2.48 megas ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

                      That must be less 50 KB!!! ๐Ÿ˜’

                      Frenchy Pilou
                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                      My Little site :)

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                        Panga
                        last edited by 6 Sept 2012, 15:22

                        @unknownuser said:

                        Ah ok I have reload your file
                        Same result than you

                        But Something I don't understand!
                        Why your file is so heavy for just 2 little rectangles + 2 circles !!!!!!! ๐Ÿ˜ฒ ๐Ÿ˜ฒ ๐Ÿ˜ฒ

                        2.48 megas ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

                        That must be less 50 KB!!! ๐Ÿ˜’

                        I was asking myself the same thing...did a purge...and everything's fine...but I made another test : made a new file, draw four squares in it, and save it : 2,42Mo. In fact, my default template was not purged...shame on me !!

                        Edit : Find something, Since I installed the Ivy Plugin, every new file as already 6 components and 4 materials in it ! Without doing anything ! Is that normal ? Also found three components called light-point !
                        2012-09-06_17h27_53.png

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                          TIG Moderator
                          last edited by 6 Sept 2012, 16:11

                          The "Ivy" tool is known to do this. ๐Ÿ˜’
                          It's annoying that it does it at startup - I think someone has made a modified version that only loads them if you use the tool - it's straightforward to fix, and since the original author seems to have lost interest it's not an issue...
                          The "light's" look like they come form a rendering tool - what like that do you have loading ?
                          ๐Ÿ˜•

                          TIG

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                            Rich O Brien Moderator
                            last edited by 6 Sept 2012, 18:26

                            [off:xx3sfx6y]
                            @unknownuser said:

                            someone has made a modified version

                            I can't find that version?[/off:xx3sfx6y]

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                              Gaieus
                              last edited by 6 Sept 2012, 21:32

                              LightUp does this as well. I have to keep it disabled until I want to use it otherwise it litters my component and material browser until I purge unused...

                              Gai...

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                                Panga
                                last edited by 6 Sept 2012, 22:01

                                @tig said:

                                The "Ivy" tool is known to do this. ๐Ÿ˜’
                                It's annoying that it does it at startup - I think someone has made a modified version that only loads them if you use the tool - it's straightforward to fix, and since the original author seems to have lost interest it's not an issue...
                                The "light's" look like they come form a rendering tool - what like that do you have loading ?
                                ๐Ÿ˜•

                                I have to check it...I'm only using TheaRender but I reinstalled recently and think I did not reinstall the Thea plugin...maybe a file that remains in my plugins folder I saved before the reinstall...

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                                  TIG Moderator
                                  last edited by 6 Sept 2012, 22:05

                                  The auto-loading of Ivy's components was discussed...
                                  I can't find the 'fix' either...
                                  Perhaps in the morning I'll remember what/where it was...
                                  It can't be that awkward to move the auto-loading for the 'startup' into the 'first-use' of the tool...

                                  TIG

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