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    • hellnbakH Offline
      hellnbak
      last edited by

      @mitcorb said:

      I will throw this out, but you don't have to count on it. What if your color/texture has a degree of transparency not accounted for?

      Nope, 100% opacity

      "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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      • hellnbakH Offline
        hellnbak
        last edited by

        Just so you know that it isn't the most likely problem, I have checked each component involved.
        3.png

        "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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        • Rich O BrienR Offline
          Rich O Brien Moderator
          last edited by

          What are you seeing when you export as a 2D graphic?

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          • hellnbakH Offline
            hellnbak
            last edited by

            Gotta head into Holland now, will check when I get back

            "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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            • ToboboT Offline
              Tobobo
              last edited by

              Could the inside face be transparent?

              Maybe you accidentally painted the component with the transparent texture?

              Toby

              Philippians 4:13

              I can do everything through him who gives me strength.

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              • hellnbakH Offline
                hellnbak
                last edited by

                Ok, here's what I've found out so far --

                It looks exactly the same when exported as a 2D graphic.

                As far as the colors being transparent or whatever, here's what happened when I experimented with the door outer shell
                The next three photos are just to show the colors involved
                a 1.png
                b 1.png
                c 1.png
                When I paint the bottom half of the door black, the shadows are correct for that section....
                d 1.png
                BUT, when the light comes from the other direction (with the bottom half still painted black), the shadow is still missing
                f 1.png

                I'm really tired right now and probably not thinking real straight, and I have little doubt that it will turn out to be something really simple that I've overlooked, but I don't know what else to look for.

                "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                • hellnbakH Offline
                  hellnbak
                  last edited by

                  Here's the SKP of the door shell if anybody thinks that would help.


                  Ford Shadow Problem.skp

                  "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                  • mitcorbM Offline
                    mitcorb
                    last edited by

                    Is this from that batch of new colors you loaded? Maybe not

                    I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                    • hellnbakH Offline
                      hellnbak
                      last edited by

                      @mitcorb said:

                      Is this from that batch of new colors you loaded? Maybe not

                      No, these were from quite a while back, long before I added any colors to the Materials folder.

                      "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                      • W Offline
                        wyatt
                        last edited by

                        I don't know why this works, but if you change all the green materials to 99% opacity, the shadows appear. I also replaced your materials with new ones and the shadows also appeared. There must be something wrong with the way those materials were created/edited, but I don't know what that might have been.

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                        • hellnbakH Offline
                          hellnbak
                          last edited by

                          @unknownuser said:

                          I don't know why this works, but if you change all the green materials to 99% opacity, the shadows appear. I also replaced your materials with new ones and the shadows also appeared. There must be something wrong with the way those materials were created/edited, but I don't know what that might have been.

                          Well, I can live with 99% opacity. As far as where the colors came from, it's been quite a while but I think I might have sampled them from a photo of an actual 56 Ford Sunliner with the color combination I wanted. But I don't see how that would have any bearing on the strange behavior.

                          Yep, found where I sampled the photos. Also sampled for the interior colors, guess that might explain the problems with the seats.

                          Very strange.

                          k.png

                          "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                          • C Offline
                            Charlie__V
                            last edited by

                            Hell,

                            If you "paint with default"......ford-fairlane-victoria-1956.jpg......will be the default.

                            I cannot explain why........though the model default is not "ford-fairlane-victoria-1956.jpg"

                            Charlie


                            Ford shadow.....Paint with default

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                            • hellnbakH Offline
                              hellnbak
                              last edited by

                              @unknownuser said:

                              Hell,

                              If you "paint with default"......ford-fairlane-victoria-1956.jpg......will be the default.

                              I cannot explain why........though the model default is not "ford-fairlane-victoria-1956.jpg"

                              Charlie

                              I'm not really sure what you're saying here. I just sampled the colors I needed using the "Match Color On Screen" eyedropper.

                              "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                              • ToboboT Offline
                                Tobobo
                                last edited by

                                Strangely when I open the skip the shadows work fine.

                                Ford Shadow Problem.jpg

                                Maybe I'm missing something

                                Toby

                                Philippians 4:13

                                I can do everything through him who gives me strength.

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                                • thomthomT Offline
                                  thomthom
                                  last edited by

                                  @hellnbak said:

                                  Well, I can live with 99% opacity

                                  That's going to hurt performance. Transparency adds overhead to processing of the model in the viewport.

                                  Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                  • thomthomT Offline
                                    thomthom
                                    last edited by

                                    Have you tried without Hardware Acceleration? In case this is a graphic card / driver issue.
                                    What card and driver version do you have?

                                    Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                    • thomthomT Offline
                                      thomthom
                                      last edited by

                                      Ah! I know what this is!

                                      I actually wrote about this some time ago: http://www.thomthom.net/thoughts/2012/03/the-secrets-of-sketchups-materials/
                                      (Scroll down to Bug with Materials and Color Alpha Channel and see example and description of bug.)

                                      To fix all materials in your model, enter this one-liner in your Ruby Console:
                                      Sketchup.active_model.start_operation('Fix Materials',true);Sketchup.active_model.materials.each { |m| c=m.color.to_a; c[3]=255; m.color=*c; };Sketchup.active_model.commit_operation

                                      Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                      • thomthomT Offline
                                        thomthom
                                        last edited by

                                        Very nice model by the way! ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘

                                        Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                        • hellnbakH Offline
                                          hellnbak
                                          last edited by

                                          You the man!!!

                                          While I don't pretend to understand any of the reasoning behind it, it did the trick!

                                          You are now on my Xmas card list

                                          "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                                          • hellnbakH Offline
                                            hellnbak
                                            last edited by

                                            @tobobo said:

                                            Strangely when I open the skip the shadows work fine.

                                            Maybe I'm missing something

                                            Maybe you had already run ThomThom's miraculous fix?

                                            "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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