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    • GaieusG Offline
      Gaieus
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      Rich, would you please also register BaseOctoBeerFesTrimbleCamp.com?

      Gai...

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        tallbridgeguy
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        Just an FYI, I'm sitting in a university clasroom giving a final exam in Sketchup to engineering freshman. (part of a cadd/visualization course)

        I really enjoy the way sketchup works and I think my students were getting the hang of 3D visualization. You know how hard it is to teach Civil/Construction engineers visualization!

        I lobbied to get sketchup as part of the course but maybe I have to go to an autodesk product. Autodesk gives free software licenses to students and it would be easy to teach 3ds max but I would really miss sketchup.

        Nielsen
        http://www.tallbridgeguy.com/

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          brookefox
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          It would seem that a good part of Trimble's interest in SU is as they said: to incorporate the engine in their products. We all know the value of that and of growing the beast rather than letting it stagnate. Similarly, as folks have observed, there is no reason to assume there will be no flow in the other direction, from their other SW into SU. Right now, just a bucket of possibility. Here in the northern hemisphere, it's spring time.

          ~ Brooke

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            TIG Moderator
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            Who's said [yet] that Trimble having got some "philanthropy" ?
            Let's give them a change before we all jump ship 😒

            😲

            TIG

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              mitcorb
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              Hi to John Bacus:
              I wish you and your team good fortune.
              You may need to take a look at your signature,eventually:

              "John Bacus
              Product Manager | SketchUp
              Google, Inc.
              Boulder, Colorado
              jbacus..google.com"

              Edited above to kill the link

              I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                Ecuadorian
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                Just one recommendation for the team:

                K.I.S.S.
                Keep It Simple, Sir.

                -Miguel Lescano
                Subscribe to my house plans YouTube channel! (30K+ subs)

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                  pbacot
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                  @tig said:

                  Who's said [yet] that Trimble having got some "philanthropy" ?
                  Let's give them a change before we all jump ship 😒

                  😲

                  Yeah if they don't know already what sort of user base they've acquired, it's going to be fun enlightening them. I say our agitators start off with a Let's get Acquainted Basecamp ASAP.

                  MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                    tald311
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                    @tig said:

                    Who's said [yet] that Trimble having got some "philanthropy" ?
                    Let's give them a change before we all jump ship 😒

                    😲

                    Agree! We should have faith. This is a good thing.

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                    • denbostD Offline
                      denbost
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                      I'm worried.
                      Google has the talent and resources to support software of this scale. Can Trimble really match that?
                      I'm very glad to hear that most (all?) of the SU team will be joining Trimble here in Boulder.

                      Is Trimble going to make 3D models for their GPS units? 😉

                      -Dennis B.

                      "Design is a plan for arranging elements in such a way as best to accomplish a particular purpose."
                      Charles Eames

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                        Lobster
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                        From what i have read so far;

                        Bring it on!

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                        • jo-keJ Offline
                          jo-ke
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                          Very surprizing news. 1. April is over, so this is real. I think Edson is right, what he is saying, Let's give them a chance. May be we'll get a great version 9....

                          @edson said:

                          I must say I was stunned by the news. sort of like hearing your dad or mom say they are splitting and you will be on your own.

                          however, on second thoughts, it always seemed to me that google was not allowing the sketchup team to develop it as far as it should go or, rather, as we wished it to go. for one thing, many of us have hoped LayOut could be further developed to allow us to abandon whatever CAD app we are using at the moment.

                          thus I am mildly optimistic about it. let's hope sketchup becomes stronger, faster and better after this.

                          http://www.zz7.de

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                            jbacus
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                            @mitcorb said:

                            Hi to John Bacus:
                            I wish you and your team good fortune.
                            You may need to take a look at your signature,eventually:

                            Thanks- I appreciate it. Definitely a renewed sense of optimism around here. I haven't changed my sig yet because until the deal closes, I'm still technically a googler. When that sig changes, you'll know the deal closed.

                            john
                            .

                            "...exaggerate the essential and leave the obvious unclear." --Vincent Van Gogh

                            John Bacus
                            jbacus@sketchup.com

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                              Arv0d0g
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                              Get your wallets out....whenever this sort of thing happens, the losers are the users.

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                                Will03
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                                Whelp...

                                I'm reminded of the big stink we all put up after google bought SketchUp and we had to switch from the SketchUp Pro forums to the SketchUcation forums... which turned out not so bad after all. I mean I still hate and avoid the Google Groups help section for SketchUp, but we've still hung on to the community here at SketchUcation (even though I'm mainly a lurker 😕 ).

                                I'm sure that Trimble will be looking for integration with their devices and software, and frankly I'm looking forward to that. Expanding my business using my SketchUp Skillz will be a pleasure, as long as Trimble allows us to come their way easily, and not vice versa (ie; try and give their current software users a hand up over the SU users)

                                Lastly, and I'm sure that everyone will want this: For a Trimble rep to come into the forum here (or post on their site) and definitively say that they will continue to develop SketchUp as a stand alone 3d CAD program. That would really put my fears to rest!

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                                  Jeff_LCI
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                                  Hello everyone! My name is Errin from Limitless Computing and we make the mobile app SightSpace 3D.

                                  I am actually excited about all of the possibilities of a match between SketchUp and Trimble and here's why. I have a background in satellite imagery/GPS/GIS and am familiar with Trimble. They are very strong with geospatial and could take SketchUp in many ways we have not even thought of. The ones that immediately jump out to me are how SketchUp could be used to augment Trimble’s geospatial (3D satellite imagery) and laser scanning (3D modeling). This could give the SketchUp team new opportunities.

                                  I am baffled, though, why Google did not see the great possibilities of a SketchUp-3D Warehouse combination for their new Google Glasses Augmented Reality project. Streaming real-time 3D information about buildings and products sounds like a win to me.

                                  I think this will ultimately be good for users (and hopefully 3rd party developers).

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                                    sorgesu
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                                    Well, I have made a decision where I stand on this and decided that my parents would do well to invest in Trimble ( I have no money).
                                    They are now proud owners of Trimble stock.

                                    Susan Sorger
                                    Former Seller Hand Rendered Entourage
                                    Former Canadian Authorized Training Centre, SketchUp

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                                      leminilab
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                                      @solo said:

                                      http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kELecsWjoXA/TyM_IFW_neI/AAAAAAAAAic/q_c3QI_uc1M/s1600/oh-shit.jpg

                                      Time to learn Blender.

                                      +1

                                      • "Live every day as if it were your last and then some day you'll be right."
                                      • "ThomThom rules!!!"
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                                        lapx
                                        last edited by

                                        With a pe of 45 and already at all time highs, I dunno Susan 😄 Name recognition or branding mean everthing. Google brought a lot of eyeballs to sketchup, perhaps not enough because why would you sell the golden egg 😕 Its fun to speculate 😄 Time will tell.

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                                        • Alan FraserA Offline
                                          Alan Fraser
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                                          I've come late to this...it's been a busy day. I'm pretty excited about this. We saw the same kind of Chicken Licken reaction from a lot of users when Google bought @Last. I'm hoping that John B and the old team will be given the freedom to really let rip on the kind of development most of us wish to see. All the best, guys.

                                          3D Figures
                                          Were you required to walk 500 miles? Were you advised to walk 500 more?
                                          You could be entitled to compensation. Call the Pro Claimers now!

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                                          • bigstickB Offline
                                            bigstick
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                                            I'm kind of worried. Still.

                                            I very much appreciate the time that John and Mark have taken to post here to allay concerns. Unfortunately it's not worked too well.

                                            The really nice thing about @Last and Google, is that they were (are) very much forward facing companies who fully engage with customers and are dedicated to understanding their requirements. You could tell just by looking at the Google and @Last websites that the companies were dedicated to making things simple, transparent, easy and user-focussed. That's the way SketchUp started, and that's the way it stayed.

                                            We've had no-one from Trimble here to say anything about the application they have just spent a lot on, with millions of users. Why?

                                            Their corporate announcements are all full of commercial jargon which makes no sense to me at all. The fact that I haven't heard of them makes no difference. The fact that there isn't much in the way of understandable useful information about their products does.

                                            What can we learn about Trimble from their website? That communication with end users in a clear and friendly way isn't something they seem to think is important.

                                            SketchUp is based around a huge community of active and passionate users, who work tirelessly and freely to add value to the product for the benefit of the community.

                                            Does anyone here remember what happened to Ecotect when AutoDesk bought it? The team was really happy at the time and thought that it represented a new start with lots of new resources dedicated to continued development. To me it seems a completely different application, subsumed into the corporate AutoDesk product range. Everyone I have spoken to about the application tells me it has lost its soul and hasn't improved. Ecotect had a community and a development team that really engaged with its customers. Now it's just standard Autodesk fare.

                                            So - Trimble, if you are reading, talk to us. Convince us that you really do understand and care how SketchUp works, and why everyone loves it. Tell us that you'll give the team their heads to push development faster than it did before and that we'll all really, genuinely love it even more. We know the SU team gets it, but they aren't paying the bills and running the show.

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