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  • J Offline
    jrm1
    last edited by 21 Mar 2012, 16:15

    I'm playing with the Vray demo on an outdoor scene. The floor is decking and in Sketchup you can see the lines of the individual deckboards. When I render, the deckboards turn to one uniform flat surface, which is obviously undesirable. Is there a setting I can play with so that the deckboards render realistically?

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      andybot
      last edited by 21 Mar 2012, 18:01

      vray doesn't render lines. You need to actually cut grooves in the decking, or use a displacement map.

      http://charlottesvillearchitecturalrendering.com/

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      • J Offline
        jrm1
        last edited by 21 Mar 2012, 19:22

        Oh, that's a blow. Is an edge not a line (clearly not)?

        What would you do if you were me? Cutting grooves instead of lines might be possible but fiddly. Do other render apps render lines?

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          andybot
          last edited by 21 Mar 2012, 19:35

          You can always export an line drawing from SU, and then overlay (multiply) over the rendering in photoshop (or similar)
          Render apps typically render only geometry.
          Take a look at the manuals for vray and try setting up a displacement or a bump map - you can get depth quite easily that way.

          http://charlottesvillearchitecturalrendering.com/

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            jrm1
            last edited by 21 Mar 2012, 19:59

            So how do people get floor tiles to look real?

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              Stinkie
              last edited by 21 Mar 2012, 20:04

              They use texture maps, for the most part. And as far as realism is concerned -lines aren't realistic. Look at real-life floor boards, or tiles, for that matter. They aren't separated by lines. So ... one either models the geometry, or uses texture maps.

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              • C Offline
                chon
                last edited by 22 Mar 2012, 07:36

                Agreed !

                Floor tiles are composed in the Vray material with grid for example...

                SU2019 pro 19.3.253 + VRay 4.00.02 (Next) on Win10-64Bits

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                • J Offline
                  jrm1
                  last edited by 22 Mar 2012, 13:59

                  Thank you. I'll look into texture map. At the moment I'm having trouble with rendering my scenes. Crash, crash all the time.

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                  • C Offline
                    cmoreink
                    last edited by 27 Mar 2012, 22:33

                    If you have time and want quality ----> model your $!@%.
                    Image 1) has 2mm space between the planks and it's 2mm deep.
                    Image 2) has 1cm space between the planks and it's 1cm deep.
                    cheers


                    2mm space between planks


                    1cm space between planks

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                    • V Offline
                      valerostudio
                      last edited by 28 Mar 2012, 12:57

                      Arrowway has excellent materials with reflection and bump maps for all types of wood floors. They have free preview versions which work well in SU. Most you can buy individually at a very reasonable cost.

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                        jrm1
                        last edited by 29 Mar 2012, 12:04

                        @cmoreink said:

                        If you have time and want quality ----> model your $!@%.

                        Model your what?!
                        Great shots btw.

                        Got any hardware setup recommendations?
                        I'm Mac based. 2008 8 core 10Gb RAM. Is that enough for a landscape with loads of plants?

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                          valerostudio
                          last edited by 29 Mar 2012, 14:13

                          Your hardware will not matter in SketchUp. You are limited by the 32 bit environment that Google has trapped us into. That and the the fact that VRay doesn't run in a separate render program that could take advantage of 64 bit like other renderers. It's a blessing and a curse.

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                            cmoreink
                            last edited by 2 Apr 2012, 18:21

                            @jrm1 said:

                            @cmoreink said:

                            If you have time and want quality ----> model your $!@%.

                            Model your what?!
                            Great shots btw.

                            Got any hardware setup recommendations?
                            I'm Mac based. 2008 8 core 10Gb RAM. Is that enough for a landscape with loads of plants?

                            Model your stuff 😉
                            In regards to your rig, you are doing much better than me. Have you looked into a thomthom "clean up tool" http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=323&t=22920 , that might help with some heavy landscaping.
                            GLTY

                            my portfolio

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