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    • soloS Offline
      solo
      last edited by

      Welcome to SCF.

      I believe you cannot attach anything for the first 3 posts (spam control feature).

      You can link to an image so I can see what you are trying to achieve.

      http://www.solos-art.com

      If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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      • J Offline
        Jet
        last edited by

        Thank you very much for your attention, Solo. I've sent you PM. Eagerly awaiting your response. I'm sitting in front of the computer feeling frustrated for not being able to get that sofa done properly. I've been working on it for 2 days; tried different methods; tried using plugins(but the most important plugins couldn't be installed.).but what I've drawn looks like crab. I couldn't sleep because I'm so afraid I'll be fired.

        Never give up, Never surrender!

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        • soloS Offline
          solo
          last edited by

          Can you post what you have so far?

          http://www.solos-art.com

          If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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          • Rich O BrienR Offline
            Rich O Brien Moderator
            last edited by

            Thought i deleted this by accident?

            Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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            • Dave RD Offline
              Dave R
              last edited by

              That's not bad. Good work.

              Etaoin Shrdlu

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              (THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE)

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              • soloS Offline
                solo
                last edited by

                Oh no, what you have done is perfectly acceptable, and possibly a method I'd use if I did not have organic tools.

                The problem is the amount of poly's in your model, I'm imagining it's very heavy.

                What you are after is an organic shape using geometric tools.
                I'd suggest you look at Artisan, Sketchy FFD, TOD (tools on surface), JPP (joint push pull) and Fredoscale to start with. (Artisan is a commercial plugin and all others are free and available in the Plug-in section)

                It's hard to explain the process until you understand the toolset.

                I have created a basic proxy that needs tweaking and subdividing, It then needs to be sculpted in order to get the soft cushion shapes.

                Here is an image of the basic proxy.

                jet couch.jpg

                And here is a quick subdivision (not complete by a long shot but an idea of how organic tools work)

                jet couch1.jpg

                http://www.solos-art.com

                If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                • J Offline
                  Jet
                  last edited by

                  @solo said:

                  The problem is the amount of poly's in your model, I'm imagining it's very heavy.

                  What you are after is an organic shape using geometric tools.
                  I'd suggest you look at Artisan, Sketchy FFD, TOD (tools on surface), JPP (joint push pull) and Fredoscale to start with. (Artisan is a commercial plugin and all others are free and available in the Plug-in section)

                  It's hard to explain the process until you understand the toolset.

                  I have created a basic proxy that needs tweaking and subdividing, It then needs to be sculpted in order to get the soft cushion shapes.

                  Here is an image of the basic proxy.

                  Understand, master. Unfortunately, by now, I still can't get the plugins installed in my mac successfully. Still working on it.

                  Is there way to get this done by not using the plugins? I know this question is obviously silly, but I'm taking the chance, because I know you're always up for challenge .

                  Never give up, Never surrender!

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                  • S Offline
                    Slimdog
                    last edited by

                    When you down load a plugin onto your mac typically they are unzipped. Copy or cut it from you downloads folder and paste it into this path.

                    Macintosh HD/Library/Application Support/Google SketchUp 8/SketchUp/plugins

                    Once your plugin is pasted into this folder you need to restart sketchup.

                    Good luck

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                    • J Offline
                      Jet
                      last edited by

                      Yes. I'd done what everyone is saying two weeks ago more than 3 times.

                      Originally, I placed the Plugins in the HD folder

                      the path is like this:
                      Mac HD/Library/Application Support/Google SketchUp8/SketchUp/plugins

                      For "SoapSkinBubbleTool_Rel_1" I put it in:
                      Mac HD/Library/Application Support/Google SketchUp8/SketchUp/tools

                      Then, it didn't work. So I'd tried putting it in user's folders
                      the path is like this:
                      User/Library/Application Support/Google SketchUp8/SketchUp/plugins

                      For "SoapSkinBubbleTool_Rel_1" I put it in
                      User/Library/Application Support/Google SketchUp8/SketchUp/tools

                      but it didn't work either.

                      BTW, all the unzipped file downloaded from the internet will be zipped automatically by the Mac os x system, a folder contains the content from the unzipped file would be generated by the system as well. The unzipped file will goes to the trash automatically. I copied the zipped folder to the plugins folder. Do you mean I need to put the unzipped file to the plugins folder as well?! 😲

                      Here're some snapshot of what it looks like:


                      HD plugin folder.png


                      HD tools folder.png


                      Plugins.png


                      preferences.png


                      Tool Palettes.png


                      Tools.png

                      Never give up, Never surrender!

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                      • TIGT Offline
                        TIG Moderator
                        last edited by

                        First problem...
                        A simple .rb file goes straight into the Plugins folder.
                        More complex tools are zipped - the zip-file contains multiple files and subfolders.
                        When you extract such a zip file its contents are [usually by default] put into a new folder that's named after the zip file itself.
                        These contents might be loose files or subfolders of files that are put into this new folder.
                        NOW THE CRUNCHER...
                        This new folder does NOT go into the Plugins folder!!
                        The loose files and subfolders [still containing their own files] must be moved from this new folder into the Plugins folder itself!
                        What is in the zip goes into the Plugins folder in exactly the same relative relationships of files and subfolders/files.
                        THEN when you restart Sketchup the Plugins will auto-load.
                        You need to read each tool's notes to see if its menu item is in say the Plugins or the Tools menu, if it's an Extension how you must activate it from Preferences, or if it has a Toolbar how you need to activate that from the View > Toolbars [or MAC equivalent name!] menu list...

                        πŸ˜’

                        TIG

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                        • B Offline
                          bjornkn
                          last edited by

                          If you get your plugin problem sorted out - and still have your job πŸ˜‰ , there is one more tool to consider using/buying/trying - Amorph (or PhotoScan) from tgi3D.
                          If you also have some good, uncropped photos you could model from them, eventually using PhotoMatch in SU (or PhotoScan) to get your models aligned with the potos, and ready for texturing all those carvings directly from the photos (you wouldn't want to model them in SU...)
                          The attached images show a quick test where I algined the camera quite coarsely with your top photo (see that small red edge - it is a vertical edge aligned with the edge of the rack) drew the contours as curves in Amorph. Then they were view locked, and the second image shows a very quick view of the model from a different view, where I have moved the curves upwards along their lock lines (works alomst like normal inference locking), and a few holes filled in with meshes and smoothed. The proportions (and shapes) are not quite right, as the lack of truly aligned photos makes it a bit of trial and error. And I didn't spend more than about 15min here. The backs should be quite a bit higher compared to the seats...
                          If you still have access to the couch and can shoot some more photos, place a big box/crate (or several) on the floor that can be used for aligning the cameras with SUs PhotoMatch tool. Or use the rack for reference (need to see more of it then).Clipboard-23.jpgClipboard-24.jpg

                          Equipped with Amorph/PhotoScan, Artisan, Curviloft, EdgeExtrude tools etc you should be able to model anything your employer throws at you πŸ˜‰

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                          • D Offline
                            driven
                            last edited by

                            hi Jet,

                            your very close on the mac front, so a few accumulated tips

                            navigate to the HD plugins folder [like in your pic] and drag it to your side bar for easy access, you can Drag copies of any downloaded plugins into it when it's there or if you prefer Copy/Paste you can right/click or ctrl/click a select Open Enclosing Folder to go straight to it.

                            You can just drag the whole folder into plugins if you want, but you need to take out or copy out, the right ruby and the support folder.

                            They're normally in the right order, so move the lot first time intact

                            with fredo's you need the LIBFREDO6_Dir_37 folder, I'll have a look later at what else is missing, unless someone else pipes in.

                            john

                            here's an example pic
                            rubies in sidebar

                            learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                            • J Offline
                              Jet
                              last edited by

                              Hey Guys, Thanks a lot to all of you! You are all so warmhearted. It makes me want to cry. Dave helped me fixed the plugins problem yesterday. (Thank you, Dave!)

                              I have a new project coming in and I'll work on the sofa later today(Can't wait to checkout all the tools). Anyway, I'll keep you posted.

                              Thanks guys!

                              Never give up, Never surrender!

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                              • B Offline
                                bahri
                                last edited by

                                This is what i like from this forum ...even master solo give his advice.. πŸ˜› πŸ˜›

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                                • J Offline
                                  Jet
                                  last edited by

                                  Hey Guys, bad news. It's been a week since I told my boss that he needs to buy the plugins for the sofa. So far, I never get any answer from him. I guess he doesn't want to buy it at all. He just had me work overtime doing tons of photo retouching and graphic works up to now. And later on, he will have me do 3d technical drawing in Autocad. It's a pity that I just get a hand on Sketchup 3D modelling and have the chance to do something fun. But I probably have to go back to some boring technical drawing...

                                  Never give up, Never surrender!

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                                  • B Offline
                                    bjornkn
                                    last edited by

                                    Sounds like a bleak future πŸ˜‰
                                    You could always download fully working trial versions of both Artisan (15 days?) and tgi3D/Amorph/PhotoScan (30 days), make the sofa and impress him so much that he opens his wallet πŸ˜‰
                                    It is not impossible to make it without plugins, but it would be a lot more difficult and time consuming.

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                                    • J Offline
                                      Jet
                                      last edited by

                                      Please don't laugh at me, Solo. I know your stunning works is from outer space. I would die for you skill and talent. It's shameful to show you this, but I have to.

                                      I did 2 version so far. I used push/pull and follow me for both of them.

                                      Never give up, Never surrender!

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