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    • jeff hammondJ Offline
      jeff hammond
      last edited by

      Nice study Simon
      I'm on a phone right now but when I get to a computer later tonight, I'll try some things that might make this a lot easier (or at least give a different way of looking at it)

      I'm know I can get a smooth & tangent curve in there very quickly but as to it being the proper shape, we'll see 😄

      dotdotdot

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      • daleD Offline
        dale
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        Hey Simon
        Thanks as usual. You are such a great contributor.
        Cheers

        Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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        • pilouP Offline
          pilou
          last edited by

          Cool tut variations! 👍

          @unknownuser said:

          I have discovered the possibility to edit nicely a pdf into Open Office.

          I am interested by this sort of operation ☀
          "How to modify an existing PDF"

          Frenchy Pilou
          Is beautiful that please without concept!
          My Little site :)

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          • jeff hammondJ Offline
            jeff hammond
            last edited by

            so i tried what i was thinking earlier and it does work.. i did this curve in 10 seconds using fredo's BezierSpline.rb (Uniform B-Spline)

            railBend.skp

            a little different than the example .skp... this one uses shorter extensions and an order 4 b-spline.. (see skp above)

            dotdotdot

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            • ely862meE Offline
              ely862me
              last edited by

              No plugin used,just native tools.


              hrex.jpg


              hrex2.jpg


              hrex3.jpg

              Elisei (sketchupper)


              Before no life was done on Earth it was THE LIFE ITSELF...GOD
              Come and See EliseiDesign

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              • simon le bonS Offline
                simon le bon
                last edited by

                @unknownuser said:

                so i tried what i was thinking earlier and it does work.. i did this curve in 10 seconds using fredo's BezierSpline.rb (Uniform B-Spline)

                10seconds!!!!
                I am on phone i need to see that this evening!
                Hey Jeff, you've also killed my tut 👊 in 10 seconds 🤣
                simon

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                • jeff hammondJ Offline
                  jeff hammond
                  last edited by

                  @ely862me said:

                  No plugin used,just native tools.

                  lol..

                  that's how they would probably be built as well.. straight tubes with 90 deg bends on the ends then welded together on site.

                  dotdotdot

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                  • jeff hammondJ Offline
                    jeff hammond
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                    @simon le bon said:

                    Hi Jeff,
                    I have Su6 & Su7 and can't read your Su8 skp solution 😞
                    But I guess you have used something like this way:

                    oops.. once again i forgot to save as something that everyone can view 😳 .. here's a v6 file.

                    railBend_v6.skp
                    it's pretty much what you've imagined it to be except i only used 4 points to define the curve. (as you only need 2 points to make a tangent blend to a line)..

                    it's something i discovered about the uniform b-spline..(in part due to eli's problem solving in a different thread).. here's a post of mine in which i do the same thing to create a tangent (and somewhat editable) complex surface blend using uniform b-splines..

                    http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=267047#p267047

                    [the video from that thread:]

                    [flash=660,405:20ue0pp6]http://www.youtube.com/v/8B0RXSW66no?fs=1&hl=en_US&rel=0&color1=0x2b405b&color2=0x6b8ab6&border=1[/flash:20ue0pp6]

                    dotdotdot

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                    • simon le bonS Offline
                      simon le bon
                      last edited by

                      Hi Jeff,
                      I have Su6 & Su7 and can't read your Su8 skp solution 😞
                      But I guess you have used something like this way:

                      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/thhandrail025.jpg


                      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/thhandrail026.jpg

                      👍 👍

                      Hi Eli,
                      I recognize with great pleasure your special spirit which works to find the simplest way. Your solution is very clever in its simplicity 👍 👍 . I agree with Jeff to think that this way has been used usually in construction.

                      Hi Bob,
                      I ask myself if we need a pdf right now? Or may be one including Jeff and Eli solutions !?

                      Hi Pilou,

                      @unknownuser said:

                      @unknownuser said:

                      I have discovered the possibility to edit nicely a pdf into Open Office.

                      I am interested by this sort of operation ☀
                      "How to modify an existing PDF"

                      In fact I haven't found the possibility to "edit" or modify a pdf within Open Office! 😞 I have just found that we can edit a complex text with pictures and links(+-?) and record it as a decent pdf. Hum! this is not exactly the same.

                      ++simon.

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                      • simon le bonS Offline
                        simon le bon
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                        Dear Jeff,
                        you show the interest of Uniform B-Spline I have missed until now!!
                        here page 4 from pdf tutorial relatives to B-Spline and Order parameter:

                        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/B_Spline_Title.jpg


                        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/th_B_Splinep4.jpg

                        I know your video I have already watched several times 😉
                        But your tritubes shows also very well the extension of your technique.

                        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/th_Jeff_tubblend.jpg

                        (Re I wanted to relate your realization in wood but the pictures are no more available 😞 )

                        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/th_Jeff_recentwork.jpg

                        a tip: when the curve is drawn, right clic and edit curve. Then use tab to call Order parameter and change it without leaving the edit mode until you find the good one 😉

                        ++simon

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                        • J Offline
                          Jim
                          last edited by

                          Maybe too simple for accuracy?


                          http://i.min.us/jbiByo.png


                          http://i.min.us/jbjaXQ.png


                          rail.skp

                          Hi

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                          • simon le bonS Offline
                            simon le bon
                            last edited by

                            Hey hey! Dear Jim,

                            You win with the "synthetic" (is it the good word?) simplicity of your solution.
                            Now that we see it, we ask ourself how can it be possible to have missed it!!

                            I think I have initiate with the worst solution 😕 . Noway it is a good tutorial thread. Very instructive for each one I guess.

                            ++simonlebon

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                            • pilouP Offline
                              pilou
                              last edited by

                              Last Jim's solution is perfect if you want not a blend progressive jonction between the 2 ends straight cylindric lines 😉

                              Frenchy Pilou
                              Is beautiful that please without concept!
                              My Little site :)

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                              • irwanwrI Offline
                                irwanwr
                                last edited by

                                i was thinking the way Jim did it too, before i got my eyes onto his post.
                                did i miss something there? like the vertical tube joining that rail and the stair below it?

                                i mean shouldn't that curvy rail on the joining plane have horizontal alignment to each other?

                                Image 3.jpg

                                Image 4.jpg


                                test rel tangga.skp

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                                • simon le bonS Offline
                                  simon le bon
                                  last edited by

                                  Hi Irwan,

                                  it is silly but I don't understand exactly what you mean (I'm french with low english language)

                                  I have initiated something which is an unnecessary complex solution, and each one had bring his own one, that bringing the interest of the thread.

                                  Whatever, I am still pleased with the result of this unique curve that I had tried to make fitting artistically to the rails...

                                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/EscalierIndustriel_rampeMetal_Suite2-750.jpg

                                  and also a bit proud of the UV mapping of these barrels made with a little series of phone pictures 😉

                                  Happy New Year ☀

                                  simon>.

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                                  • irwanwrI Offline
                                    irwanwr
                                    last edited by

                                    hi Simon 😄

                                    @unknownuser said:

                                    it is silly but I don't understand exactly what you mean (I'm french with low english language)

                                    i know you are French. i always win easily if i play for French in Sid Meier's Pirates 😛 (irrelevant)

                                    yes, it's a good image indeed. what rendering application did you use for it?

                                    by the way, how is your graphic adapter now? any luck with the artifacts on the screen yet?

                                    happy new year, Simon.

                                    [ed] i think what Elisei did up there is the same thing that Jim did.

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                                    • simon le bonS Offline
                                      simon le bon
                                      last edited by

                                      Hi Irwan 😄

                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      what rendering application did you use for it?

                                      ❓ 😒 😎 No rendering in this case. All is simply SketchUp!

                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      by the way, how is your graphic adapter now? any luck with the artifacts on the screen yet?

                                      I'm still searching.
                                      With your Video Memory Test (which is a portable handy little app) I know that my GPU ram is clean

                                      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/generalPicts/VideoMemoryTest_2012-01-01.jpg

                                      I'm now going to upgrade my video drivers..

                                      Hum! 😒 You still haven't the reply to your previous question..

                                      With my best, simon.

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                                      • irwanwrI Offline
                                        irwanwr
                                        last edited by

                                        [ed] congratulation with the test result, Simon. the next step for more comprehensive diagnose then 😉

                                        @simon le bon said:

                                        Hum! 😒 You still haven't the reply to your previous question..

                                        what question?

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