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    • GaieusG Offline
      Gaieus
      last edited by

      One of those great, epic ones again, Simon, thanks! 👍

      Indeed, a seemingly easy thing explained "scientifically"!
      😄

      Gai...

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      • simon le bonS Offline
        simon le bon
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        Thank you sirs!

        Dear Gaieus,
        What a pleasure to see the "Watching Man" always on deck;-)
        and thanks for the nice compliment 😎

        simon

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        • GaieusG Offline
          Gaieus
          last edited by

          I saw it yesterday already but did not want to comment to make 100% sure you finish the series of posts without interruption!
          😄

          Gai...

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          • W Offline
            watkins
            last edited by

            Dear Simon,

            Is this something you could put in to a .pdf document, perhaps as a follow up to the individual postings. Similarly, for all all you other brilliant tutorials. Thank you for you enthusiasm and generosity.

            Kind regards,
            Bob

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            • simon le bonS Offline
              simon le bon
              last edited by

              Dear Bob,
              I'm touched by your kindness 😎
              Sure I can make a PDF. I have discovered the possibility to edit nicely a pdf into Open Office. I'm going to find the time this week.
              ++ Simon.

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              • jeff hammondJ Offline
                jeff hammond
                last edited by

                Nice study Simon
                I'm on a phone right now but when I get to a computer later tonight, I'll try some things that might make this a lot easier (or at least give a different way of looking at it)

                I'm know I can get a smooth & tangent curve in there very quickly but as to it being the proper shape, we'll see 😄

                dotdotdot

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                • daleD Offline
                  dale
                  last edited by

                  Hey Simon
                  Thanks as usual. You are such a great contributor.
                  Cheers

                  Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                  • pilouP Offline
                    pilou
                    last edited by

                    Cool tut variations! 👍

                    @unknownuser said:

                    I have discovered the possibility to edit nicely a pdf into Open Office.

                    I am interested by this sort of operation ☀
                    "How to modify an existing PDF"

                    Frenchy Pilou
                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                    My Little site :)

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                    • jeff hammondJ Offline
                      jeff hammond
                      last edited by

                      so i tried what i was thinking earlier and it does work.. i did this curve in 10 seconds using fredo's BezierSpline.rb (Uniform B-Spline)

                      railBend.skp

                      a little different than the example .skp... this one uses shorter extensions and an order 4 b-spline.. (see skp above)

                      dotdotdot

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                      • ely862meE Offline
                        ely862me
                        last edited by

                        No plugin used,just native tools.


                        hrex.jpg


                        hrex2.jpg


                        hrex3.jpg

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                        • simon le bonS Offline
                          simon le bon
                          last edited by

                          @unknownuser said:

                          so i tried what i was thinking earlier and it does work.. i did this curve in 10 seconds using fredo's BezierSpline.rb (Uniform B-Spline)

                          10seconds!!!!
                          I am on phone i need to see that this evening!
                          Hey Jeff, you've also killed my tut 👊 in 10 seconds 🤣
                          simon

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                          • jeff hammondJ Offline
                            jeff hammond
                            last edited by

                            @ely862me said:

                            No plugin used,just native tools.

                            lol..

                            that's how they would probably be built as well.. straight tubes with 90 deg bends on the ends then welded together on site.

                            dotdotdot

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                            • jeff hammondJ Offline
                              jeff hammond
                              last edited by

                              @simon le bon said:

                              Hi Jeff,
                              I have Su6 & Su7 and can't read your Su8 skp solution 😞
                              But I guess you have used something like this way:

                              oops.. once again i forgot to save as something that everyone can view 😳 .. here's a v6 file.

                              railBend_v6.skp
                              it's pretty much what you've imagined it to be except i only used 4 points to define the curve. (as you only need 2 points to make a tangent blend to a line)..

                              it's something i discovered about the uniform b-spline..(in part due to eli's problem solving in a different thread).. here's a post of mine in which i do the same thing to create a tangent (and somewhat editable) complex surface blend using uniform b-splines..

                              http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=267047#p267047

                              [the video from that thread:]

                              [flash=660,405:20ue0pp6]http://www.youtube.com/v/8B0RXSW66no?fs=1&hl=en_US&rel=0&color1=0x2b405b&color2=0x6b8ab6&border=1[/flash:20ue0pp6]

                              dotdotdot

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                              • simon le bonS Offline
                                simon le bon
                                last edited by

                                Hi Jeff,
                                I have Su6 & Su7 and can't read your Su8 skp solution 😞
                                But I guess you have used something like this way:

                                http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/thhandrail025.jpg


                                http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/thhandrail026.jpg

                                👍 👍

                                Hi Eli,
                                I recognize with great pleasure your special spirit which works to find the simplest way. Your solution is very clever in its simplicity 👍 👍 . I agree with Jeff to think that this way has been used usually in construction.

                                Hi Bob,
                                I ask myself if we need a pdf right now? Or may be one including Jeff and Eli solutions !?

                                Hi Pilou,

                                @unknownuser said:

                                @unknownuser said:

                                I have discovered the possibility to edit nicely a pdf into Open Office.

                                I am interested by this sort of operation ☀
                                "How to modify an existing PDF"

                                In fact I haven't found the possibility to "edit" or modify a pdf within Open Office! 😞 I have just found that we can edit a complex text with pictures and links(+-?) and record it as a decent pdf. Hum! this is not exactly the same.

                                ++simon.

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                                • simon le bonS Offline
                                  simon le bon
                                  last edited by

                                  Dear Jeff,
                                  you show the interest of Uniform B-Spline I have missed until now!!
                                  here page 4 from pdf tutorial relatives to B-Spline and Order parameter:

                                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/B_Spline_Title.jpg


                                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/th_B_Splinep4.jpg

                                  I know your video I have already watched several times 😉
                                  But your tritubes shows also very well the extension of your technique.

                                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/th_Jeff_tubblend.jpg

                                  (Re I wanted to relate your realization in wood but the pictures are no more available 😞 )

                                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/th_Jeff_recentwork.jpg

                                  a tip: when the curve is drawn, right clic and edit curve. Then use tab to call Order parameter and change it without leaving the edit mode until you find the good one 😉

                                  ++simon

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                                  • J Offline
                                    Jim
                                    last edited by

                                    Maybe too simple for accuracy?


                                    http://i.min.us/jbiByo.png


                                    http://i.min.us/jbjaXQ.png


                                    rail.skp

                                    Hi

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                                    • simon le bonS Offline
                                      simon le bon
                                      last edited by

                                      Hey hey! Dear Jim,

                                      You win with the "synthetic" (is it the good word?) simplicity of your solution.
                                      Now that we see it, we ask ourself how can it be possible to have missed it!!

                                      I think I have initiate with the worst solution 😕 . Noway it is a good tutorial thread. Very instructive for each one I guess.

                                      ++simonlebon

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                                      • pilouP Offline
                                        pilou
                                        last edited by

                                        Last Jim's solution is perfect if you want not a blend progressive jonction between the 2 ends straight cylindric lines 😉

                                        Frenchy Pilou
                                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                        My Little site :)

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                                        • irwanwrI Offline
                                          irwanwr
                                          last edited by

                                          i was thinking the way Jim did it too, before i got my eyes onto his post.
                                          did i miss something there? like the vertical tube joining that rail and the stair below it?

                                          i mean shouldn't that curvy rail on the joining plane have horizontal alignment to each other?

                                          Image 3.jpg

                                          Image 4.jpg


                                          test rel tangga.skp

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                                          • simon le bonS Offline
                                            simon le bon
                                            last edited by

                                            Hi Irwan,

                                            it is silly but I don't understand exactly what you mean (I'm french with low english language)

                                            I have initiated something which is an unnecessary complex solution, and each one had bring his own one, that bringing the interest of the thread.

                                            Whatever, I am still pleased with the result of this unique curve that I had tried to make fitting artistically to the rails...

                                            http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/EscalierIndustriel_rampeMetal_Suite2-750.jpg

                                            and also a bit proud of the UV mapping of these barrels made with a little series of phone pictures 😉

                                            Happy New Year ☀

                                            simon>.

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