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    • simon le bonS Offline
      simon le bon
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      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/thhandrail001.jpg

      In the process I have used , I have detached a particular case which I call "The simple way" 😎

      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/thhandrail002b.jpg

      This particular case fixes two parameters.
      1)the horizontal part of the handrail begins by a flat pure quarter of a circle. This way we only have to determine the curve for the remaining quarter.
      2)The climbing handrail must axes above the perpendicular axis exiting from the flat quarter of circle I just have talking about. This way the curve we have to draw can bend as a simple arc instead of a "S" curve (and we obtain this way a final shape much better adapted and beautiful)

      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/thhandrail004.jpg


      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/thhandrail005.jpg

      (the case to avoid:)

      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/thhandrail002.jpg


      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/thhandrail003.jpg

      I assume you know the need and the use of the following Plugins:
      -> Fredo6 BezierSpline (and its 20 sheets PDF !!)
      -> Didier Bur Projections Tools
      -> Rick Wilson Weld
      ->Didier Bur Lines to Tubes
      I assume also you know how use "Intersect with the model" by entering a group, select all and intersect, in order to recover the path of the intersection..

      Basically, my way is to project plane curves on semi cylinders and reversely.
      All modifications are made on plane curves.
      The understanding of the process, turns around the ability to imagine a flat curve projected in 3D. Please understand and note the necessity to make our original flat curve with endings tangent to the axes..
      ,..and a remark: it goes better if every part of the construction set is turned as a group!! 😉

      [flash=640,480:2tw86mrq]http://www.youtube.com/v/t1FfpfIiRB4[/flash:2tw86mrq]

      😄 simon.

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      • simon le bonS Offline
        simon le bon
        last edited by

        Still simple: a double deck handrail:

        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/thhandrail006b.jpg


        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/thhandrail007b.jpg


        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/thhandrail008b.jpg

        Cleaning to keep the part of the curve we want is a mess in its middle part. So I prefer put a construction point on each strategic node, delete everything between, and redraw the missing part with line tool (and weld afterward)


        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/thhandrail012.jpg


        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/thhandrail013.jpg


        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/thhandrail014.jpg


        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/thhandrail015.jpg

        *s

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        • simon le bonS Offline
          simon le bon
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          Come back to the first exercise, but this time with a complete control on the total curve! This is "The long Way"
          The problem is that the curve projected from plane to 3D and from 3D to plane generates problematic aliasing. The tip is to repair the curve on the plane stage of the curve.

          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/thhandrail016.jpg


          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/thhandrail017.jpg


          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/thhandrail018.jpg


          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/thhandrail019.jpg


          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/thhandrail020.jpg


          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/thhandrail021.jpg


          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/thhandrail022.jpg


          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/thhandrail023.jpg


          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/thhandrail024.jpg

          *simonlebon

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          • GaieusG Offline
            Gaieus
            last edited by

            One of those great, epic ones again, Simon, thanks! 👍

            Indeed, a seemingly easy thing explained "scientifically"!
            😄

            Gai...

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            • simon le bonS Offline
              simon le bon
              last edited by

              Thank you sirs!

              Dear Gaieus,
              What a pleasure to see the "Watching Man" always on deck;-)
              and thanks for the nice compliment 😎

              simon

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              • GaieusG Offline
                Gaieus
                last edited by

                I saw it yesterday already but did not want to comment to make 100% sure you finish the series of posts without interruption!
                😄

                Gai...

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                • W Offline
                  watkins
                  last edited by

                  Dear Simon,

                  Is this something you could put in to a .pdf document, perhaps as a follow up to the individual postings. Similarly, for all all you other brilliant tutorials. Thank you for you enthusiasm and generosity.

                  Kind regards,
                  Bob

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                  • simon le bonS Offline
                    simon le bon
                    last edited by

                    Dear Bob,
                    I'm touched by your kindness 😎
                    Sure I can make a PDF. I have discovered the possibility to edit nicely a pdf into Open Office. I'm going to find the time this week.
                    ++ Simon.

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                    • jeff hammondJ Offline
                      jeff hammond
                      last edited by

                      Nice study Simon
                      I'm on a phone right now but when I get to a computer later tonight, I'll try some things that might make this a lot easier (or at least give a different way of looking at it)

                      I'm know I can get a smooth & tangent curve in there very quickly but as to it being the proper shape, we'll see 😄

                      dotdotdot

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                      • daleD Offline
                        dale
                        last edited by

                        Hey Simon
                        Thanks as usual. You are such a great contributor.
                        Cheers

                        Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                        • pilouP Offline
                          pilou
                          last edited by

                          Cool tut variations! 👍

                          @unknownuser said:

                          I have discovered the possibility to edit nicely a pdf into Open Office.

                          I am interested by this sort of operation ☀
                          "How to modify an existing PDF"

                          Frenchy Pilou
                          Is beautiful that please without concept!
                          My Little site :)

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                          • jeff hammondJ Offline
                            jeff hammond
                            last edited by

                            so i tried what i was thinking earlier and it does work.. i did this curve in 10 seconds using fredo's BezierSpline.rb (Uniform B-Spline)

                            railBend.skp

                            a little different than the example .skp... this one uses shorter extensions and an order 4 b-spline.. (see skp above)

                            dotdotdot

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                            • ely862meE Offline
                              ely862me
                              last edited by

                              No plugin used,just native tools.


                              hrex.jpg


                              hrex2.jpg


                              hrex3.jpg

                              Elisei (sketchupper)


                              Before no life was done on Earth it was THE LIFE ITSELF...GOD
                              Come and See EliseiDesign

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                              • simon le bonS Offline
                                simon le bon
                                last edited by

                                @unknownuser said:

                                so i tried what i was thinking earlier and it does work.. i did this curve in 10 seconds using fredo's BezierSpline.rb (Uniform B-Spline)

                                10seconds!!!!
                                I am on phone i need to see that this evening!
                                Hey Jeff, you've also killed my tut 👊 in 10 seconds 🤣
                                simon

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                                • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                  jeff hammond
                                  last edited by

                                  @ely862me said:

                                  No plugin used,just native tools.

                                  lol..

                                  that's how they would probably be built as well.. straight tubes with 90 deg bends on the ends then welded together on site.

                                  dotdotdot

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                                  • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                    jeff hammond
                                    last edited by

                                    @simon le bon said:

                                    Hi Jeff,
                                    I have Su6 & Su7 and can't read your Su8 skp solution 😞
                                    But I guess you have used something like this way:

                                    oops.. once again i forgot to save as something that everyone can view 😳 .. here's a v6 file.

                                    railBend_v6.skp
                                    it's pretty much what you've imagined it to be except i only used 4 points to define the curve. (as you only need 2 points to make a tangent blend to a line)..

                                    it's something i discovered about the uniform b-spline..(in part due to eli's problem solving in a different thread).. here's a post of mine in which i do the same thing to create a tangent (and somewhat editable) complex surface blend using uniform b-splines..

                                    http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=267047#p267047

                                    [the video from that thread:]

                                    [flash=660,405:20ue0pp6]http://www.youtube.com/v/8B0RXSW66no?fs=1&hl=en_US&rel=0&color1=0x2b405b&color2=0x6b8ab6&border=1[/flash:20ue0pp6]

                                    dotdotdot

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                                    • simon le bonS Offline
                                      simon le bon
                                      last edited by

                                      Hi Jeff,
                                      I have Su6 & Su7 and can't read your Su8 skp solution 😞
                                      But I guess you have used something like this way:

                                      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/thhandrail025.jpg


                                      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/thhandrail026.jpg

                                      👍 👍

                                      Hi Eli,
                                      I recognize with great pleasure your special spirit which works to find the simplest way. Your solution is very clever in its simplicity 👍 👍 . I agree with Jeff to think that this way has been used usually in construction.

                                      Hi Bob,
                                      I ask myself if we need a pdf right now? Or may be one including Jeff and Eli solutions !?

                                      Hi Pilou,

                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      I have discovered the possibility to edit nicely a pdf into Open Office.

                                      I am interested by this sort of operation ☀
                                      "How to modify an existing PDF"

                                      In fact I haven't found the possibility to "edit" or modify a pdf within Open Office! 😞 I have just found that we can edit a complex text with pictures and links(+-?) and record it as a decent pdf. Hum! this is not exactly the same.

                                      ++simon.

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                                      • simon le bonS Offline
                                        simon le bon
                                        last edited by

                                        Dear Jeff,
                                        you show the interest of Uniform B-Spline I have missed until now!!
                                        here page 4 from pdf tutorial relatives to B-Spline and Order parameter:

                                        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/B_Spline_Title.jpg


                                        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/th_B_Splinep4.jpg

                                        I know your video I have already watched several times 😉
                                        But your tritubes shows also very well the extension of your technique.

                                        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/th_Jeff_tubblend.jpg

                                        (Re I wanted to relate your realization in wood but the pictures are no more available 😞 )

                                        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/th_Jeff_recentwork.jpg

                                        a tip: when the curve is drawn, right clic and edit curve. Then use tab to call Order parameter and change it without leaving the edit mode until you find the good one 😉

                                        ++simon

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                                        • J Offline
                                          Jim
                                          last edited by

                                          Maybe too simple for accuracy?


                                          http://i.min.us/jbiByo.png


                                          http://i.min.us/jbjaXQ.png


                                          rail.skp

                                          Hi

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                                          • simon le bonS Offline
                                            simon le bon
                                            last edited by

                                            Hey hey! Dear Jim,

                                            You win with the "synthetic" (is it the good word?) simplicity of your solution.
                                            Now that we see it, we ask ourself how can it be possible to have missed it!!

                                            I think I have initiate with the worst solution 😕 . Noway it is a good tutorial thread. Very instructive for each one I guess.

                                            ++simonlebon

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