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    • thomthomT Offline
      thomthom
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      Arcs and Curves applies constraints on transformations unless they are exploded.

      Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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      • TIGT Offline
        TIG Moderator
        last edited by

        So Explode them, Scale and then re-Weld into Curves ?

        TIG

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          DIEGO-RODRIGUEZ
          last edited by

          @thomthom said:

          Arcs and Curves applies constraints on transformations unless they are exploded.

          yes?
          is strange that all fredoscale tools work well with arc and polylines.
          no need to exploit the arcs and polylines

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          • fredo6F Offline
            fredo6
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            @diego-rodriguez said:

            stretching with orientation of scaling box

            small error.
            does not work "stretching with orientation of scaling box", with arcs and polylines

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            possible, correct this error?

            Diego,

            As mentioned in the Doc, FredoScale does not stretch the SU curves. That's just a design choice, because SU does not stretch curves and I would have had to explode the curve, strech the edges and then reconstruct the curves (thios would have been destructive and probably not possible for an interactive visual deformation). It stretches normally if the curve if exploded.

            Fredo

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              DIEGO-RODRIGUEZ
              last edited by

              thank you all for the explanation

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              • fredo6F Offline
                fredo6
                last edited by

                @diego-rodriguez said:

                thank you all for the explanation

                Stretch is no more than using the Move tool on the vertices of segment. You can do it manually and FredoScale just automates this process.

                As you can notice, all SU Curves move as a whole whatever vertex or edge you select.

                Fredo

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                  DIEGO-RODRIGUEZ
                  last edited by

                  if, extends what do you say.
                  although my initial question was related to can deform curves, non symmetrical.
                  But this work can be done manually. only if this work is automatic is more practical

                  thank you very much again

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                  • P Offline
                    pianosmalos
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                    Hi Fredo. As others, I am absolutely amazed about how powerful your tools is. However I found this problem (see attached pic) anytime I try to do a bend which is not coplanar to an existing component face.

                    In this basic case, I tried a bend using the plane behind the object as a bending plane, whereas I applied the origin onto a random point on the middle of the object's top surface. It always fails, no matter what the object is.

                    But I also realized that, if I apply the origin on a real point within the component (intersection point, point from an edge of the object), the tool works perfectly.

                    I post it here, in case you think this is a bug or just the way it works.

                    Thanks a lot, thumbs up for your great work! 👍 👍 👍


                    Bend Failure.jpg

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                    • mitcorbM Offline
                      mitcorb
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                      If I may suggest: (probably not the problem)
                      Try scaling the geometry up x10, x100, or some other factor temporarily for the operation, then scaling down by the inverse factor. As you may already know, if the edge distances are sufficiently small, Sketchup/OpenGL cannot close faces, especially when it has to generate new logical edges on a distorted boundary.

                      Like I said, this may not be the problem, just something to rule out.

                      I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                      • hellnbakH Offline
                        hellnbak
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                        I've use Box Tapering before and it's performed wonderfully (as do all of your amazing plugins), but I'm having a problem now. I'm trying to taper an object, just move the face in a bit. Well, when I move the cursor in the direction I want, nothing happens, and then it snaps to .95. After that I can keep moving it in just as smoothly as you please, but I cannot get it to go anywhere between .95 and 1.00, if I try it just snaps back to 1.00. I've tried typing in the taper I want (somewhere around .98, although I can't be sure yet because I havent' been able to test it), but when I hit enter nothing happens. If I hit enter again it snaps back to 1.00. I've tried many, many times, no luck. Any help would be appreciated.


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                        "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                        • mitcorbM Offline
                          mitcorb
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                          In my recent experience at least with the Fredoscale tool, you can actually type in the specific desired factor eg after you come to rest on 0.95, let up on the mouse button and type in the specific size factor for example 0.98 and hit Enter. Be sure you type in the zero before the .98. Apparently the tool requires this literal input.
                          There may be some discussion in Fredo's pdf manual on this. I did not check.

                          Try the above and yell back if it works, so others can see.

                          I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                          • hellnbakH Offline
                            hellnbak
                            last edited by

                            That did it!!!!! 😍 I've been going nuts for almost 2 days trying to get it to work, and all I had to do was type in 0.98 instead of just .98 Such a small thing, such a big difference! I really appreciate you taking the time to reply, I had just about given up on hearing from anybody about this. Again, thanks!

                            "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                            • mitcorbM Offline
                              mitcorb
                              last edited by

                              Glad to be of service.
                              So many have helped me, or gifted me with amazing tools in this forum, I feel it is necessary for me to pay it forward.

                              I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                              • hellnbakH Offline
                                hellnbak
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                                Your tip came just in the nick of time - I had a gun in one hand, a rusty razor blade in another hand and a samuri sword in the third (yeah, I spent some time around Chernobyl 😉 ). I owe you a Big Mac. Or a Porsche. Whichever you prefer (although the Big Mac does require less maintenance, gets better mileage and costs a lot less to insure) 😆 .

                                "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                                • mitcorbM Offline
                                  mitcorb
                                  last edited by

                                  Yeah, but the investment all turns to poo.

                                  Edit: And if you gave me a Porsche, I'd just sell it. Either my kids would destroy it, or the maintenance, insurance and worry about dings would destroy me. 💚

                                  I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                                  • hellnbakH Offline
                                    hellnbak
                                    last edited by

                                    Well, I could give you a Porsche that's already had the crap beat out of it. Or, I could just toast you at your next wedding 😆

                                    "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                                    • fredo6F Offline
                                      fredo6
                                      last edited by

                                      @mitcorb said:

                                      In my recent experience at least with the Fredoscale tool, you can actually type in the specific desired factor eg after you come to rest on 0.95, let up on the mouse button and type in the specific size factor for example 0.98 and hit Enter. Be sure you type in the zero before the .98. Apparently the tool requires this literal input.
                                      There may be some discussion in Fredo's pdf manual on this. I did not check.

                                      Try the above and yell back if it works, so others can see.

                                      Mitcorb,

                                      Thanks very much.
                                      I fixed the issue and FredoScale (like other plugins) will now accept notation ".98" as equivalent to "0.98". This will also work in formulas (like ".98 + .97")
                                      This will go in a next version of LibFredo6

                                      Fred

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                                      • mitcorbM Offline
                                        mitcorb
                                        last edited by

                                        @Fredo: As I said to hellnbak: "Glad to be of service" (in gratitude for your noble gifts to this community).

                                        I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                                        • J Offline
                                          Jim57
                                          last edited by

                                          I'm turn in in a project to a CAD shop for fine tuning of model and prototype machining. In the course of revising some turnings, pieces were pulled way out of round— it's so easy to do with the Scale tool, in fact, so hard to keep circular. Not only can you type the percentages into the VCB, but it's incredibly easy to select Option (Command for PC) to scale around center, then hit Control to get the contextual menu that allows you to type in final dimensions by axis, and to understand which axis is which (an arcane SU skill I am nowhere near approaching— first red, last red, it's all so contextual!)

                                          Fredo, thanks so much and so much again! I could have passed it off as is, but now I don't have to look like a dweeb to the CAD designer.

                                          Jim

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                                            drfabinex
                                            last edited by

                                            I'm not sure if this has been discussed before, I apologize if it has.

                                            I use fredoscale mostly for it's stretching capability. I notice that after stretching an object (usually multiple times) a bit of unwanted "shearing" happens. This happens to me on ANY project, sketchup 7 and 8, windows and mac. As I say, it usually shows after multiple stretching operations (5+) so I'm not sure if this is a small amount of error that compounds, or something else.

                                            Has anyone else come across it? Anything to be done? I'm used to working around this problem already.

                                            Thanks for your help, I love this plugin so much!


                                            This is a group of other grouped objects that were stretched multiple times and now have some unwanted shearing.

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