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    • TIGT Offline
      TIG Moderator
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      TIG

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      • TIGT Offline
        TIG Moderator
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        Just a tip on getting an image to look 'Axo' - no 'skewing' is necessary in the geometry BUT to get the height looking right [as if it were a hand-drawn Axo] then you need to [temporarily] scale the grouped model up in the Z by a factor before printing, it's something like ~9.524 for an Axo: the Iso is OK...
        Group the whole model, set the 'Axo' view, model your geometry, scale the model up in the Z by 9.524 and re-zoom/pan window [NO orbiting], then export an image, undo scale and continue...

        TIG

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          pilou
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          The more funny is that you have "main" in English but it's another story πŸ’š

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          Is beautiful that please without concept!
          My Little site :)

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            scott_lowe
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            Looks like it works TIG, thanks.

            When I downloaded it the file was called avo%2Biso.rb It appears to work fine thought, just thought I would let you know.

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              penumbradesign
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              TIG

              This is awesome! Thanks!

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              • L Offline
                Lersince1991
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                Hi, this is so helpful! Thanks so much.
                I was just wondering if you would be able to give a more exact figure to the "9.524" figure you've quoted.
                I'm using this to export my architectural drawings in axo to scale. a few more decimals would be fine πŸ˜„ but yeh the more accurate the better. in the last drawing I exported to autocad with this the measurements were nearly there, but 176mm out on just a height of 3500mm (before scaled). on a directly vertical line

                Thanks again!
                Luke

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                • TIGT Offline
                  TIG Moderator
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                  @lersince1991 said:

                  Hi, this is so helpful! Thanks so much.
                  I was just wondering if you would be able to give a more exact figure to the "9.524" figure you've quoted.
                  I'm using this to export my architectural drawings in Axo to scale. a few more decimals would be fine πŸ˜„ but the more accurate the better. in the last drawing I exported to AutoCAD with this the measurements were nearly there, but 176mm out on just a height of 3500mm (before scaled). on a directly vertical line
                  Thanks again!
                  Luke

                  Luke...
                  Can you try a few options to see what works best - I established the ~9.524 mathematically.
                  If your 176mm in 3500mm is correct [and not a result of other factors] then the figure needs to be adjusted not by a few decimal places but either ~9.476104 or ~10.002924 depending which way the error seems to be more or less...

                  TIG

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                    Lersince1991
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                    Sure, thanks for the quick response.

                    its the same on every system and model isn't it? no need to change the factor every time, just need to tweak it slightly πŸ˜„

                    Heres some data for you based on a cube 3500x3500x3500mm
                    (scale factor) = (45 degree line) & (90 degree line)

                    9.476104 = 3489.3444 & 3657.4247
                    9.5724 = 3489.3444 & 3675.9107
                    10.002924 = 3489.3444 & 3860.7576

                    Ideal is of course...

                    (x) = 3500 & 3500

                    Cheers,
                    Luke.

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                      Lersince1991
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                      Got a final figure for you, pretty accurate but will update if I find the need to go more decimal places, for now I dont know how to see the exact figure from autocad.

                      basically the cal is.

                      3500mm (actual height) / 385.9629 (exported height from axo4545) = transform scale

                      Working between autocad and sketchup pro 8
                      should be the same for all though

                      Luke.

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                        Lersince1991
                        last edited by

                        sorry forgot to add the actual z scale factor = 9.068229097
                        this produces 3500.0001 in autocad πŸ˜„
                        but the 45 degree angled lines aren't quite there with a dimension of 3489.3444mm instead of 3500. although they are at the correct angles (45 and 315 or... -45)

                        Luke Riggall

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                          Lersince1991
                          last edited by

                          and...
                          scale factor for the x and y sides (proportionate) is 1.003053754

                          can anyone confirm both of these?
                          if so could these be made into actions (scripts?) in order to prevent all this decimal typing lol.

                          Good stuff πŸ˜„
                          Luke

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                          • TIGT Offline
                            TIG Moderator
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                            So can we agree on a final vertical scaling factor, to export the perfect 2D Axo and I think about a script to do it...
                            πŸ˜•

                            TIG

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                              Lersince1991
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                              A script would be great.
                              heres the final values, I've done them to a bit more of an accuracy, accurate to more than 1mm for models under 100,000m so yeh pretty solid figures.

                              I would scale all axis to get them accurate,

                              blue (z) axis scale value = 9.068228873
                              red axis scale value = 1.003053768
                              green axis scale value = 1.003054401

                              see what script you can do, typing that in every time gets boring lol

                              Luke

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                              • TIGT Offline
                                TIG Moderator
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                                Thanks... I'll cogitate over an automation...

                                TIG

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                                  TIG Moderator
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                                  Here's an update - v1.2 http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=252273#p252273
                                  It now auto scales the whole model to distort it so that 3d axos will look right - using:
                                  axo_scale
                                  and undoes that scaling with:
                                  axo_restore_scale
                                  Use these tools with care!

                                  TIG

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                                    Gutz
                                    last edited by

                                    Great plugin TIG!

                                    A few suggestions/requests/bugs from a test I did with 2 cubes:

                                    1.If you run axo4545 and then axo_scale - it cuts the top of the cubes. only if you run axo4545 again it works out for some reson...

                                    2.Axo_restore_scale gives me the following error :
                                    axo_restore_scale
                                    Error: #<NameError: (eval):149: undefined local variable or method `axo_restore_scale' for main:Object>
                                    (eval):149

                                    3.Is it possible to show shadows correctly after you run axo_scale?

                                    4.Is it possible to change the axis of alignment? the reason is because I need the shadows to be to the right , at normal usage I just orbit to bring the red axis down , but here I can't of course
                                    for now I just do an horizontal flip on photoshop but just wondering if it's possible to setup easily

                                    Thanks again for making such a great plugin

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                                      TIG Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      @gutz said:

                                      Great plugin TIG!

                                      A few suggestions/requests/bugs from a test I did with 2 cubes:

                                      1.If you run axo4545 and then axo_scale - it cuts the top of the cubes. only if you run axo4545 again it works out for some reason...

                                      2.Axo_restore_scale gives me the following error :
                                      axo_restore_scale
                                      Error: #<NameError: (eval):149: undefined local variable or method `axo_restore_scale' for main:Object>
                                      (eval):149

                                      3.Is it possible to show shadows correctly after you run axo_scale?

                                      4.Is it possible to change the axis of alignment? the reason is because I need the shadows to be to the right , at normal usage I just orbit to bring the red axis down , but here I can't of course
                                      for now I just do an horizontal flip on photoshop but just wondering if it's possible to setup easily

                                      Thanks again for making such a great plugin

                                      1. Sound like the notorious 'clipping issue' is your model very big, very small or far away from the origin ?
                                      2. 'axo_restore_scale' should be axo_scale_restore - my typo in the help section 😳
                                      3. The shadows will become distorted by the vertical scaling factor - if you want '45 degree' shadows I suppose we just need to find a long/lat/date/time where the 'scale' objects cast shadows that look as desired ? Set it as a Style that only retains those changes... If you play around with the shadow settings and advise what you'd like to do I can see if it's scriptable...
                                      4. I can't see how to have other axes [easily] - rotating the exported image in PS or Gimp is probably the easiest solution...

                                      TIG

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                                        Gutz
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                                        @tig said:

                                        @gutz said:

                                        Great plugin TIG!

                                        A few suggestions/requests/bugs from a test I did with 2 cubes:

                                        1.If you run axo4545 and then axo_scale - it cuts the top of the cubes. only if you run axo4545 again it works out for some reason...

                                        2.Axo_restore_scale gives me the following error :
                                        axo_restore_scale
                                        Error: #<NameError: (eval):149: undefined local variable or method `axo_restore_scale' for main:Object>
                                        (eval):149

                                        3.Is it possible to show shadows correctly after you run axo_scale?

                                        4.Is it possible to change the axis of alignment? the reason is because I need the shadows to be to the right , at normal usage I just orbit to bring the red axis down , but here I can't of course
                                        for now I just do an horizontal flip on photoshop but just wondering if it's possible to setup easily

                                        Thanks again for making such a great plugin

                                        1. Sound like the notorious 'clipping issue' is your model very big, very small or far away from the origin ?
                                        2. 'axo_restore_scale' should be axo_scale_restore - my typo in the help section 😳
                                        3. The shadows will become distorted by the vertical scaling factor - if you want '45 degree' shadows I suppose we just need to find a long/lat/date/time where the 'scale' objects cast shadows that look as desired ? Set it as a Style that only retains those changes... If you play around with the shadow settings and advise what you'd like to do I can see if it's scriptable...
                                        4. I can't see how to have other axes [easily] - rotating the exported image in PS or Gimp is probably the easiest solution...

                                        Wow that was fast respone πŸ˜„

                                        1.Ok , It's happening only on rare occasions with v8 ( last time I tried it with v6 ) so it's really minor
                                        2.Working great!
                                        3.How do I set it as a Style? ( I'm new with sketchup so sorry if it's a dumb question , but I couldn't find it also in the help section.. )
                                        4.Will do , Thanks πŸ˜„

                                        I've attached the example i'm working with
                                        The image is flipped horizontally and thats what i need to accomplish eventually ( of course with the z factor correctly )

                                        Thanks again for all the help
                                        Gutz


                                        Axo Test.skp


                                        Untitled.jpg

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                                        • TIGT Offline
                                          TIG Moderator
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                                          To save your shadow settings use a new Scene tab that retains the shadows as set in your Style.
                                          Make a copy of the Style with those shadows set and nothing else.
                                          Then you should be able to click the Shadows Scene tab and then nothing else changes except the shadows swap to your settings.
                                          You can export a Style and re-import it into another model OR have it set as one of the styles in your normal template, so all new models get that style as one of the available ones...Capture.PNG

                                          TIG

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                                            Gutz
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                                            Maybe I'm doing something wrong , But it saves the "Shadow settings" ( time , date etc. ) and not the shadow itself
                                            So I'm only getting the direction of the shadow and not the actual shadow from the unscaled model

                                            Thanks

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