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    • TIGT Offline
      TIG Moderator
      last edited by

      @unknownuser said:

      "Γ  la main" πŸ˜‰

      I think that
      'Γ  la main' = by hand - you deliver a document by hand [i.e. it is in your hand] OR 'fait Γ  la main' = hand-made [in English this phrase is normally reserved for things like food, clothes, furniture etc, but not in the general sense of 'manually' (manuellement) which is often used as the opposite of 'automatically'] - 'Γ  la main' is a general usage and can be used in many case without misinterpretation, as it literally means 'at [the] hand' - so it is often used regarding anything relating to 'hands', BUT then
      'par la main' = by [the use of the] hand - you make a SKP mesh by hand - in the sense that you 'made it with your hand[s]' ['manually'] rather than making it ''automatically, perhaps using EEbyRails or Fredo's new gizmo [ πŸ’š ], WHILST
      'dans la main' = in [the] hand - you have a mouse in your hand, WHILST
      'sur la main' = on the hand - you have a blister on your hand
      [note that 'I am on hand' = 'Je suis sur place' when someone is 'ready to assist' and the 'hand' is not translated]
      'pour la main' = for the hand - you want a plaster for your hand [probably because you have a blister on it!]
      'de la main' = of the hand [belonging to the hand] - the blister is on the back of your hand (sur le dos de votre main)
      'avec la main' = with the hand [accompanying the hand NOT by the use of the hand] - you will go to see the doctor with your hand [ 🀣 you are unlikely to leave it at home πŸ˜’ ]
      etc etc β˜€

      TIG

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        watkins
        last edited by

        TIG,

        Could you repeat that explanation for our KhoeKhoegowab speakers? A quick refresher course:

        et. seq.

        Click, click,

        Bob

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        • pilouP Offline
          pilou
          last edited by

          And about KhoeKhoegowab speakers, that is impossible for me! β˜€
          Only the mouse click ! πŸ˜‰

          Frenchy Pilou
          Is beautiful that please without concept!
          My Little site :)

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          • pilouP Offline
            pilou
            last edited by

            Yes...but no πŸ˜„
            "Par la main" = you hold your lovely girl friend "par la main"
            "Γ  la main" = you make a SKP mesh "Γ  la main"(it's the right meaning) ... with a mouse πŸ˜„
            "sous la main" = you have a mouse "sous la main"(really and also like disponibility)
            "dans la main" = you have a mouse "dans la main" (you see it, so your hand is up turn down)so you can't use it for make SKP mesh πŸ’š
            "pour la main" don't specially exist = it's a medicine "pour la main" (for the hand but can be anything) πŸ€“
            ...etc
            Maybe you understand why Google translator has some difficulties πŸ’š

            Frenchy Pilou
            Is beautiful that please without concept!
            My Little site :)

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            • TIGT Offline
              TIG Moderator
              last edited by

              On the other hand, I hand it to you, that if I reveal my hand you'll be on hand to give me a hand with understanding my clock's hands - then you can hand over a hand of cards or a hand of bananas - hands off ! With a hand-me-down hand-up - hands up! it's a robbery - give him a big hand - my horse is 16 hands - get the hired hand to read my hand: I'm going hand over fist here - it's getting out of hand... πŸ‘Š
              ...such subtlety of meaning... πŸ˜’

              Also "KhoeKhoegowab -" I sound like that when I'm eating already 🀣

              TIG

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              • TIGT Offline
                TIG Moderator
                last edited by

                Just a tip on getting an image to look 'Axo' - no 'skewing' is necessary in the geometry BUT to get the height looking right [as if it were a hand-drawn Axo] then you need to [temporarily] scale the grouped model up in the Z by a factor before printing, it's something like ~9.524 for an Axo: the Iso is OK...
                Group the whole model, set the 'Axo' view, model your geometry, scale the model up in the Z by 9.524 and re-zoom/pan window [NO orbiting], then export an image, undo scale and continue...

                TIG

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                • pilouP Offline
                  pilou
                  last edited by

                  The more funny is that you have "main" in English but it's another story πŸ’š

                  Frenchy Pilou
                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                  My Little site :)

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                  • S Offline
                    scott_lowe
                    last edited by

                    Looks like it works TIG, thanks.

                    When I downloaded it the file was called avo%2Biso.rb It appears to work fine thought, just thought I would let you know.

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                    • P Offline
                      penumbradesign
                      last edited by

                      TIG

                      This is awesome! Thanks!

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                      • L Offline
                        Lersince1991
                        last edited by

                        Hi, this is so helpful! Thanks so much.
                        I was just wondering if you would be able to give a more exact figure to the "9.524" figure you've quoted.
                        I'm using this to export my architectural drawings in axo to scale. a few more decimals would be fine πŸ˜„ but yeh the more accurate the better. in the last drawing I exported to autocad with this the measurements were nearly there, but 176mm out on just a height of 3500mm (before scaled). on a directly vertical line

                        Thanks again!
                        Luke

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                        • TIGT Offline
                          TIG Moderator
                          last edited by

                          @lersince1991 said:

                          Hi, this is so helpful! Thanks so much.
                          I was just wondering if you would be able to give a more exact figure to the "9.524" figure you've quoted.
                          I'm using this to export my architectural drawings in Axo to scale. a few more decimals would be fine πŸ˜„ but the more accurate the better. in the last drawing I exported to AutoCAD with this the measurements were nearly there, but 176mm out on just a height of 3500mm (before scaled). on a directly vertical line
                          Thanks again!
                          Luke

                          Luke...
                          Can you try a few options to see what works best - I established the ~9.524 mathematically.
                          If your 176mm in 3500mm is correct [and not a result of other factors] then the figure needs to be adjusted not by a few decimal places but either ~9.476104 or ~10.002924 depending which way the error seems to be more or less...

                          TIG

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                          • L Offline
                            Lersince1991
                            last edited by

                            Sure, thanks for the quick response.

                            its the same on every system and model isn't it? no need to change the factor every time, just need to tweak it slightly πŸ˜„

                            Heres some data for you based on a cube 3500x3500x3500mm
                            (scale factor) = (45 degree line) & (90 degree line)

                            9.476104 = 3489.3444 & 3657.4247
                            9.5724 = 3489.3444 & 3675.9107
                            10.002924 = 3489.3444 & 3860.7576

                            Ideal is of course...

                            (x) = 3500 & 3500

                            Cheers,
                            Luke.

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                              Lersince1991
                              last edited by

                              Got a final figure for you, pretty accurate but will update if I find the need to go more decimal places, for now I dont know how to see the exact figure from autocad.

                              basically the cal is.

                              3500mm (actual height) / 385.9629 (exported height from axo4545) = transform scale

                              Working between autocad and sketchup pro 8
                              should be the same for all though

                              Luke.

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                                Lersince1991
                                last edited by

                                sorry forgot to add the actual z scale factor = 9.068229097
                                this produces 3500.0001 in autocad πŸ˜„
                                but the 45 degree angled lines aren't quite there with a dimension of 3489.3444mm instead of 3500. although they are at the correct angles (45 and 315 or... -45)

                                Luke Riggall

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                                  Lersince1991
                                  last edited by

                                  and...
                                  scale factor for the x and y sides (proportionate) is 1.003053754

                                  can anyone confirm both of these?
                                  if so could these be made into actions (scripts?) in order to prevent all this decimal typing lol.

                                  Good stuff πŸ˜„
                                  Luke

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                                  • TIGT Offline
                                    TIG Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    So can we agree on a final vertical scaling factor, to export the perfect 2D Axo and I think about a script to do it...
                                    πŸ˜•

                                    TIG

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                                      Lersince1991
                                      last edited by

                                      A script would be great.
                                      heres the final values, I've done them to a bit more of an accuracy, accurate to more than 1mm for models under 100,000m so yeh pretty solid figures.

                                      I would scale all axis to get them accurate,

                                      blue (z) axis scale value = 9.068228873
                                      red axis scale value = 1.003053768
                                      green axis scale value = 1.003054401

                                      see what script you can do, typing that in every time gets boring lol

                                      Luke

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                                      • TIGT Offline
                                        TIG Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        Thanks... I'll cogitate over an automation...

                                        TIG

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                                        • TIGT Offline
                                          TIG Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          Here's an update - v1.2 http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=252273#p252273
                                          It now auto scales the whole model to distort it so that 3d axos will look right - using:
                                          axo_scale
                                          and undoes that scaling with:
                                          axo_restore_scale
                                          Use these tools with care!

                                          TIG

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                                          • G Offline
                                            Gutz
                                            last edited by

                                            Great plugin TIG!

                                            A few suggestions/requests/bugs from a test I did with 2 cubes:

                                            1.If you run axo4545 and then axo_scale - it cuts the top of the cubes. only if you run axo4545 again it works out for some reson...

                                            2.Axo_restore_scale gives me the following error :
                                            axo_restore_scale
                                            Error: #<NameError: (eval):149: undefined local variable or method `axo_restore_scale' for main:Object>
                                            (eval):149

                                            3.Is it possible to show shadows correctly after you run axo_scale?

                                            4.Is it possible to change the axis of alignment? the reason is because I need the shadows to be to the right , at normal usage I just orbit to bring the red axis down , but here I can't of course
                                            for now I just do an horizontal flip on photoshop but just wondering if it's possible to setup easily

                                            Thanks again for making such a great plugin

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