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  • D Offline
    DIEGO-RODRIGUEZ
    last edited by 4 Oct 2010, 03:12

    TIG. a question.
    it is normal that when I run the tool ouliner mirror with open, sketchup generate a 'Bugsplats' and close?

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    • T Online
      TIG Moderator
      last edited by 4 Oct 2010, 08:39

      Diego

      Your question is a little 'ambiguous' - however, I have tested all permutations and with me [Vista SUp v7/8] I get no such issues.

      This is what should happen when using the tool...

      When you have a selection and run 'Mirror', then you pick point[s] and it mirrors the selection, finally asking if you want to erase the original etc.
      If there is no selection when you run 'Mirror' you are told so, and it stops.

      On a PC there are now additional safeguards against 'Outliner' generated BugSplats...
      When you run 'Mirror' AND the 'Outliner' is open AND it is 'rolled-down', the 'Outliner' window is automatically 'rolled-up', then Mirror continues and you pick point[s] etc - on completion the 'Outliner' is 'rolled-down' back to its original state.
      When you run 'Mirror' AND the 'Outliner' is open BUT it is already 'rolled-up', then nothing is done to it, then Mirror continues and you pick point[s] etc, to completion.

      When you open/close the 'Outliner' during normal working it should have no affect on the 'Mirror' tool.

      Have you extracted all of the required files into the '../Plugins/' folder?
      I appreciate that if you are 'splatting' the Console is unlikely to be very useful... but can you get it to fail with the Ruby Console open and do you get any error messages?

      TIG

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        DIEGO-RODRIGUEZ
        last edited by 4 Oct 2010, 12:44

        this is the error.
        I use
        windows xp sp3, in Spanish. sketchup sketchup 8 in Spanish and 7 in Spanish
        in the two versions generated BugSplats.

        the image is made with sketchup 8.
        although sketchup 7, BugSplats generates but does not generate error reporting in the console ruby

        file without zoom.gif
        mirror 01.jpg

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        • T Online
          TIG Moderator
          last edited by 4 Oct 2010, 14:59

          The rolled-down 'Outliner' WILL often cause a splat, that is why the new version tries to set it to 'roll-up' - however I notice you have it 'docked' that might be stopping the 'roll-up' - try having the 'Outliner' NOT docked with the others and see if that splats too... If it does the recommendation stands don't have the Outliner open/rolled-down while using tools that process groups - as it can 'splat'!

          I've no idea what the error message means - it must be another script that gets involved with components - quietly_force_sync_mats_cb just - is not in my Sketchup files [I 'grepped' them all]

          TIG

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            Jim
            last edited by 4 Oct 2010, 15:16

            Does it bugsplat if you use the 2nd parameter for start_operation?

            Hi

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              DIEGO-RODRIGUEZ
              last edited by 4 Oct 2010, 22:51

              Tig.
              the error in the ruby console, is generated by file called RubyWinFunc.so, using the Vray render engine.

              and

              Sketchup is closed only when the mirror and duplicate the components / groups.
              However if only mirror the components / groups (not duplicate) sketchup is not closed.
              By far the best solution is to have the closed ouliner

              and a question.
              when applied to a curved mirror. duplicated curve is exploited.
              can be solved?

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              • T Online
                TIG Moderator
                last edited by 5 Oct 2010, 09:13

                Diego

                I only rarely happens to me - usually a Curve is kept intact...
                If you know you have Curves and experience the problem then you could manually Group the Selection before Mirroring it.
                I don't know how to stop the rare 'raw' curve exploding glitch - the method used is basically "the selection is grouped, the group is copied, scaled -1 [to 'mirror' it] and then the original group might be deleted, then the group is exploded so the selection is back as it was but now 'mirrored'.

                A Curve shouldn't 'explode' as it's container group explodes but just sometimes it does!
                I was aware of the glitch but in a few tests just now I can't get it to reproduce - could you post a small SKP with a failing example ?

                TIG

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                  DIEGO-RODRIGUEZ
                  last edited by 5 Oct 2010, 11:44

                  tig. is a very strange error.
                  sometimes it generates and sometimes not.
                  I have not found a pattern of regular behavior

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                    bd99
                    last edited by 6 Oct 2010, 06:46

                    thankkkkkkkkkkkkkk

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                    • T Offline
                      tfdesign
                      last edited by 6 Oct 2010, 09:45

                      Tig, I use the Flip Along tool a lot of the time. I also watched a SketchUp tutorial with an official Google instructor saying that he didn't quite get it (flip along). I don't understand what there is that's not to get? How does your Mirror plugin differ or improve what's already available?

                      Tom

                      My book "Let's SketchUp!" Download from here

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                      • GaieusG Offline
                        Gaieus
                        last edited by 6 Oct 2010, 09:51

                        With the flip along tool, you can flip along one of the main axes (or those of groups/components) only. This plugin lets you mirror in a bunch of different ways, too.

                        Gai...

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                        • T Online
                          TIG Moderator
                          last edited by 6 Oct 2010, 10:10

                          As Gai explained... the built in 'Flip' mirrors around the model's axes.
                          This is also similar to using Scale with '-1', where the 'mirroring' is limited to three directions too.
                          The Mirror tool allows you to mirror around a point, line or plane depending whether you pick 1, 2 or 3 points.
                          The most usual is around the plane from 3 points - that way you can Mirror about any plane, not just the axial planes and the mirrored version is related to the plane in the reverse manner to the original selection. To do it with Flip/Scale would involve one or more Rotate steps too.
                          The other benefit of Mirror is that [like CAD tools] on completion of the mirroring you can choose to keep or delete the original selection - useful when modeling in symmetrical parts etc as the 'copy' part is built-in for you...

                          TIG

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                            Gaieus
                            last edited by 6 Oct 2010, 10:32

                            @tig said:

                            The other benefit of Mirror is that [like CAD tools] on completion of the mirroring you can choose to keep or delete the original selection - useful when modeling in symmetrical parts etc as the 'copy' part is built-in for you...

                            Although this is not hard with the native tools either;

                            1. Copy the "to-be-mirrored" entity
                            2. Do the mirroring (flip or scale)
                            3. Paste in place the original entity

                            Gai...

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                            • T Online
                              TIG Moderator
                              last edited by 6 Oct 2010, 11:30

                              But awkward with non-axial flips...

                              TIG

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                                tfdesign
                                last edited by 6 Oct 2010, 11:33

                                I think it's got to be the sado-masochistic mathematician in me! (incidentally, my old man is a Cambridge-educated topologist! πŸ˜‰ ) I like that "now how can I do this without a plugin?". πŸ˜† Sounds good Tig. Thanks for the reply. I'll try and get round to having a go with this tool some time in the not too distant future. πŸ˜„

                                Meanwhile, I have a table to build! πŸ˜‰

                                Tom

                                My book "Let's SketchUp!" Download from here

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                                  tfdesign
                                  last edited by 6 Oct 2010, 11:36

                                  @tig said:

                                  But awkward with non-axial flips...

                                  Yes. Do-able, but I can see that it would only be possible if one was good at remembering strings of numbers, repetitions and angles? 😲 πŸ˜‰

                                  Plugins are best then? πŸ˜„

                                  My book "Let's SketchUp!" Download from here

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                                  • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                    jeff hammond
                                    last edited by 6 Oct 2010, 14:50

                                    @tfdesign said:

                                    @tig said:

                                    But awkward with non-axial flips...

                                    Yes. Do-able, but I can see that it would only be possible if one was good at remembering strings of numbers, repetitions and angles? 😲 πŸ˜‰

                                    Plugins are best then? πŸ˜„

                                    you can do it without knowing any angles etc. but it's a pita.. this video makes it look easier than it really is because i didn't include the 5-10 minutes i spent figuring out the right moves (and have spent that same 5-10 minutes multiple times doing this in real drawings).. mirror.rb is a blessing πŸ‘ β˜€

                                    [flash=660,405:37jyqytp]http://www.youtube.com/v/Fsr9X4yir2Y?fs=1&hl=en_US&rel=0&color1=0x2b405b&color2=0x6b8ab6&border=1[/flash:37jyqytp]

                                    dotdotdot

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                                      mac1
                                      last edited by 6 Oct 2010, 16:13

                                      Change in SU 7. Place axis then scale??

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                                      • G Offline
                                        GWD
                                        last edited by 7 Oct 2010, 06:13

                                        TIG,

                                        Thanks very much for the outline closer!!!!!! I can use this code in some of mine scripts.

                                        regards,

                                        Guy

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                                        • OxerO Offline
                                          Oxer
                                          last edited by 25 Oct 2010, 15:44

                                          Hello!
                                          Mirror is one of the plugins i use most, but with SU8, the plugin Mirror 3.3 don't work for me. I use SU 8 spanish on Mac OSX Snow Leopard, one message appears in Console window, with SU7 and Mirror 3.1 the plugin worked fine.
                                          This is the Error:
                                          Console Error Message

                                          I hope you that you help me,
                                          Thanks!

                                          "The result is the end what is important is the process" by Oxer
                                          [http://www.oxervision.blogspot.com/(http://www.oxervision.blogspot.com/)]

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